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0% Ethanol, Questions |
NARP74 |
Jul 23 2023, 01:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I recently found a station that is selling 0% Ethanol. It is a little more expensive. Any advantages or disadvantages to running a tank full once in a while?
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Superhawk996 |
Jul 23 2023, 01:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,819 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
You’ll get a little better fuel economy since pure gasoline has higher energy density than ethanol mix.
It won’t benefit you much running an occasional tank. Far better to use it to fill up the tank before storage. That way you minimise moisture (ethanol binds with water molecules) in the tank while it’s being stored. If you are running carbs you’ll have some nuance in tuning switching back and forth. Won’t be drastic but you’ll find that it’s running richer on pure gas without the ethanol acting as an oxidiser adding oxygen from the ethanol. |
rfinegan |
Jul 23 2023, 03:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-February 13 From: NC Member No.: 15,499 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
hydrophobic vs hydroscopic mixing back and forth can leave you with water on the bottom and gas on the top...cant run on water....
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914Sixer |
Jul 23 2023, 04:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Extra 50-75 miles per tank for my 2013 Silverado. Truck is back to running like a bat out of hell.
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Freezin 914 |
Jul 23 2023, 04:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 856 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I only run no ethanol 91 octane all the time.
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Aerostatwv |
Jul 23 2023, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 13-July 11 From: WV Member No.: 13,315 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I never thought about running it in my 2011 Suburban. I watch my mileage closely and have tried all of the different octanes, nothing increased the mileage. Since it wasn't rattling the valves, no use running premium or middle grade. Several stations have started offering ethanol free where I live so I will probably try a couple of tanks worth and review the results.
Thanks for the idea Mark! Chris Extra 50-75 miles per tank for my 2013 Silverado. Truck is back to running like a bat out of hell. |
Craigers17 |
Jul 23 2023, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 5-August 17 From: Rome, GA Member No.: 21,317 Region Association: South East States |
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mate914 |
Jul 23 2023, 05:25 PM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
Extra 50-75 miles per tank for my 2013 Silverado. Truck is back to running like a bat out of hell. Wow... That is a lot. Ethanol gas = engine killer. Matt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif) |
r_towle |
Jul 23 2023, 06:44 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Ethanol is ruining my old cars fuel systems.
It’s a shame, we should stop doing it. |
73-914 |
Jul 23 2023, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 575 Joined: 24-April 10 From: Albany UpstateNY Member No.: 11,651 Region Association: None |
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JmuRiz |
Jul 23 2023, 08:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,426 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Jealous of you guys with E0 fuel available…no place anywhere close to me.
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mlindner |
Jul 24 2023, 05:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
We are lucky in the mid-west with Quik-Trip gas stations all have 0%. Great for the old car, boats, lawn mower.
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9146GUY |
Jul 24 2023, 08:36 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 29-November 15 From: Central Ohio Member No.: 19,420 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Sheetz has it also. HQed in Penn.
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Root_Werks |
Jul 24 2023, 08:45 AM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,319 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you can get 0E gas, run it 100% of the time for reasons already stated.
Lucky in the PNW there are tons of boats = lots of 0E pumps. Usually either 89 or 91 and yes, a bit more expensive than the Ethanol infused junk. |
NARP74 |
Jul 24 2023, 08:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Ours is 87 but at this altitude it is OK. Murphy Express carries it all over the state. You could try HEET as a water remover product if needed.
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Garland |
Jul 24 2023, 09:02 AM
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Restoration Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 1,329 Joined: 8-January 04 From: ......Michigan...... Member No.: 1,535 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I only run no ethanol 91 octane all the time. Same here....carb'd 914....I only run no ethanol .....I think it's 90 Octane at the station I get it from. Costs a little more, but worth it IMHO. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I sleep better, knowing I’m not pumping, and storing water in my 914 fuel tank’s. |
NARP74 |
Jul 24 2023, 09:04 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Just found this site for checking where you are. Not optimized for mobile yet, but should work.
https://www.pure-gas.org/ |
Al Meredith |
Jul 24 2023, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 960 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
I'm sure the engine will not start on pure alcohol. Notice if an indy car stalls they spray gas in the intake to get it started . Running is OK
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NARP74 |
Jul 24 2023, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,063 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Any cleaning effects on the fuel system of running E0 ?
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914Sixer |
Jul 24 2023, 04:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That's the question for sure. It depends where you look.
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