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Shifting, Hard to shift |
Tonyooc |
Aug 2 2023, 01:28 PM
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1974 2.0 Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 6-January 18 From: Fort Mill, SC Member No.: 21,763 Region Association: South East States |
I drove my car about 2 months ago with no issues. Now the shifter is incredibly hard to move. It doesn't make a difference if the car is running or not. Clutch or no clutch. The Trans has about 4000 miles on it new shift bushing were installed also. I don't understand what could happen while it's sitting. Any ideas.
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mrholland2 |
Aug 2 2023, 02:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 750 Joined: 7-September 11 From: Santa Maria,CA Member No.: 13,531 Region Association: Central California |
I drove my car about 2 months ago with no issues. Now the shifter is incredibly hard to move. It doesn't make a difference if the car is running or not. Clutch or no clutch. The Trans has about 4000 miles on it new shift bushing were installed also. I don't understand what could happen while it's sitting. Any ideas. Have you crawled under, disconnected the shifter from the transmission console to see how the shifter moves independently of the console and vice versa? Hopefully, that will eliminate at least one concern |
windforfun |
Aug 2 2023, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,783 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Check the bushing in the firewall.
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Dr Evil |
Aug 2 2023, 02:14 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I drove my car about 2 months ago with no issues. Now the shifter is incredibly hard to move. It doesn't make a difference if the car is running or not. Clutch or no clutch. The Trans has about 4000 miles on it new shift bushing were installed also. I don't understand what could happen while it's sitting. Any ideas. Have you crawled under, disconnected the shifter from the transmission console to see how the shifter moves independently of the console and vice versa? Hopefully, that will eliminate at least one concern This is a good first step. Isolate weather it is internal, or external to the gearbox. The other item to check is the clutch cable. Check calibration, and if it is actually pulling the fork adequately. If your clutch tube has broken off in the tunnel, you can have a dragging clutch disk and that wont let you shift easily. Internally, there are not a lot of things that can cause this. The things that can are all not good and require the box be opened and correctly addressed. Is it grinding at all? If not grinding, then likely something is obstructing the movement of the external bits. |
Tonyooc |
Aug 2 2023, 03:06 PM
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1974 2.0 Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 6-January 18 From: Fort Mill, SC Member No.: 21,763 Region Association: South East States |
I will disconnect the shifter at the trans. The bushing on the firewall is new as well as the clutch cable.
I will keep you posted |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 2 2023, 03:12 PM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,758 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
Did you by chance install seat belts? I ask because the receiver that secures to the tunnel requires a shirt bolt and if the right one is not used, it will conflict with the shifting rod. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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DRPHIL914 |
Aug 2 2023, 03:29 PM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,766 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
I drove my car about 2 months ago with no issues. Now the shifter is incredibly hard to move. It doesn't make a difference if the car is running or not. Clutch or no clutch. The Trans has about 4000 miles on it new shift bushing were installed also. I don't understand what could happen while it's sitting. Any ideas. does the pedal pressure feel normal? if the shifter is hard to move, with or without the clutch pedal engaged, i would think about that mechanism, starting with the shift bushing in the coupler that is on the rod right at the tunnel. if you disconnect the rear shift bar from the bar that comes out from the shifter out the tunnel at the firewall, you should be able to see if the stiffness or tightness is still present, then isolate location- either in the tunnel at the base of the shifter, or the coupler bushing, or the transmission shift console, and go from there. Phil |
Tonyooc |
Aug 2 2023, 05:46 PM
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1974 2.0 Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 6-January 18 From: Fort Mill, SC Member No.: 21,763 Region Association: South East States |
Did you by chance install seat belts? I ask because the receiver that secures to the tunnel requires a shirt bolt and if the right one is not used, it will conflict with the shifting rod. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I put seat belts in yesterday. I'm going to say 100 percent that us the problem. |
windforfun |
Aug 2 2023, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,783 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
Ah ha!!!
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Tonyooc |
Aug 3 2023, 08:34 AM
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1974 2.0 Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 6-January 18 From: Fort Mill, SC Member No.: 21,763 Region Association: South East States |
The seat belt bolts were the problem, all better now.
Thank you Michael. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
Cairo94507 |
Aug 3 2023, 08:35 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,758 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
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930cabman |
Aug 3 2023, 08:37 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,061 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
The seat belt bolts were the problem, all better now. Thank you Michael. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) The taste of victory is sweet, even when you do something dumb to break it in the first place |
GregAmy |
Aug 3 2023, 08:43 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,298 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Did you by chance install seat belts? I ask because the receiver that secures to the tunnel requires a shirt bolt and if the right one is not used, it will conflict with the shifting rod. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) I put seat belts in yesterday. I'm going to say 100 percent that us the problem. That, right there, is one of those "holy HELL why have I not donated more funds at this place to keep it alive...???" Sweet success. |
Montreal914 |
Aug 3 2023, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,558 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
WOW! Duly noted for when I reassemble.
This is such a great place! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
930cabman |
Aug 3 2023, 08:56 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,061 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States |
Did you by chance install seat belts? I ask because the receiver that secures to the tunnel requires a shirt bolt and if the right one is not used, it will conflict with the shifting rod. Just a thought. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) The winner, great diagnosis (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
rhodyguy |
Aug 3 2023, 09:15 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Good catch guys. $ and time saved, frustration eliminated.
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BillJ |
Aug 3 2023, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,096 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
This place is awesome isn't it?
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mlindner |
Aug 3 2023, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,520 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Awesome, love this 914 world forum. Just the best.
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windforfun |
Aug 3 2023, 03:12 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,783 Joined: 17-December 07 From: Blackhawk, CA Member No.: 8,476 Region Association: None |
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