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so i am out having a walk.
stretching the strained left eyeball which is suffering from computer screen battle fatigue due to combat drop into construction drawing debacle.

and i stumble on this.

1968 holden hr.
have not seen one of these for at least two decades.
its original. with rust. yes cars rust in australia...........eventually no matter what. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

dad had one of these. the sedan version. thats the second car i remember as a child.
dad's was green. but the wagons were cool.

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for those of you yanks (septic tanks in rhyming slang (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) interested this is your classic everyman aussie car of the mid 60s. these date from 68. the aus-chevrolet.

apparently GM USA flew out the oldsmobile junior designer team to do all these cars.

this is the car immediately before it.
the holden HD with its pedestrian stabbing front guard extensions.

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it has oldsmobile toronado front guard extensions glued on to something that looked like a cross between a vauxhall and a dodge dart.
went down like a lead balloon in the showroom and the oldsmobile boys had to do a quick shave on the front guards and pull a bit of fakery with indicator lights pretending to be twin headlights to produce the HR. which my dad duly purchased.

bought them time to muck around in the design studio here in melbourne to do a shrink wrap toronado and come up with the evergreen holden monaro.
no rear hip. xerox-ed straight in from the toronado. and poverty-ized in size.
not necessarily a bad thing?

toronado. monaro. boy those guys were on a straight line rail road track when it came to naming cars.

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the monaro came out (along with 4 door family version called the kingswood about 4 months after my father purchased the HR. a case of instant regret i don't think he entirely got over. at least for a few years.).


after wallowing in the nostalgia on the sidewalk for a few minutes of amazement i walked a mere half a block further and stumbled on this rising sun classic in absolutely immaculate condition tucked in a carpark in a block of 60s garden setting apartments.

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it was a fun walk as winter comes to an end. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.


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post Aug 19 2023, 06:11 AM
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The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.


yep that chevy may as well be a HR.
three on the tree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
i used to pretend i had to move it to wash it for the old man and he would throw me the keys.
reverse it up the drive and into first back down again about 23 times before it was in the ideal spot to clean it. i would have been about 12 or 13. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

those subi utes were called a brumby here.
they kind of just did close variations on the names hey. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
a brumby is a wild feral horse in australia.

i think the nova is close.
but apparently the key to the monaro was deleted the crease line on the rear fender.
no hip. apparently there was an earlier version with a hip crease line and the toronado man said lose the crease. they are a good looking car in the flesh. fast in straight line esp when they had the chev 350 option. but they hated to go around corners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
mostly the roads are straight lines in australia.

if you look close at the HR in the phots above the rego plate is 913.
i smirked when i saw that.
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 19 2023, 07:11 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 05:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.


yep that chevy may as well be a HR.
three on the tree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
i used to pretend i had to move it to wash it for the old man and he would throw me the keys.
reverse it up the drive and into first back down again about 23 times before it was in the ideal spot to clean it. i would have been about 12 or 13. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

those subi utes were called a brumby here.
they kind of just did close variations on the names hey. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
a brumby is a wild feral horse in australia.

i think the nova is close.
but apparently the key to the monaro was deleted the crease line on the rear fender.
no hip. apparently there was an earlier version with a hip crease line and the toronado man said lose the crease. they are a good looking car in the flesh. fast in straight line esp when they had the chev 350 option. but they hated to go around corners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
mostly the roads are straight lines in australia.

if you look close at the HR in the phots above the rego plate is 913.
i smirked when i saw that.


I don't know about where you are, but here in the states the Subaru Brat got seats in the bed so you could take two more people with you. They didn't get seat belts, just handles sticking up so you could hold on.

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IIRC the seats were removable so you could use it for hauling too. My parents wouldn't let me ride in the back of his. Too dangerous.


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post Aug 19 2023, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 06:26 AM) *

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 19 2023, 07:11 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 05:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.


yep that chevy may as well be a HR.
three on the tree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
i used to pretend i had to move it to wash it for the old man and he would throw me the keys.
reverse it up the drive and into first back down again about 23 times before it was in the ideal spot to clean it. i would have been about 12 or 13. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

those subi utes were called a brumby here.
they kind of just did close variations on the names hey. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
a brumby is a wild feral horse in australia.

i think the nova is close.
but apparently the key to the monaro was deleted the crease line on the rear fender.
no hip. apparently there was an earlier version with a hip crease line and the toronado man said lose the crease. they are a good looking car in the flesh. fast in straight line esp when they had the chev 350 option. but they hated to go around corners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
mostly the roads are straight lines in australia.

if you look close at the HR in the phots above the rego plate is 913.
i smirked when i saw that.


I don't know about where you are, but here in the states the Subaru Brat got seats in the bed so you could take two more people with you. They didn't get seat belts, just handles sticking up so you could hold on.

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IIRC the seats were removable so you could use it for hauling too. My parents wouldn't let me ride in the back of his. Too dangerous.


thats too cool.

no the fun police banned that sort of texan hoonery down here.

a girl i knew used to haul us all over town in her hilux back in the late 70s.
she would load up. about 10 of us in the car. 3 in the cab and the rest in the tray.
inevitably there would be rotating blue lights and a siren blip and we would get pulled over and threated with a night in the richmond police station if we didn't get out and walk.
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 07:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.

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It is exactly a nova! Just mirrorized for the aussies
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QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 19 2023, 06:41 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 07:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.

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It is exactly a nova! Just mirrorized for the aussies


yeah your are right.
same smooth flank.
those toronado boys influenced the whole vast gm sprawling empire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

now if only australia had stayed on track with the american program.
instead of going all commonwealth again.
there is hope with the bee five twos parking in darwin.

here is the family version of the right hand drive nova.
which haunted my father shortly after he purchase his beloved hr.
known as the kingswood.
corny names.

it got the hip. the mirror nova got the smooth flank.
they both got everything the same from the hip forward.

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post Aug 19 2023, 07:01 AM
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Kingswood is an old Chevy name. They sold Kingswood station wagons here in the sixties and seventies. Big giant land yachts covered in fake woodgrain.

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My parents had the Oldsmobile version. If you have seen "That 70s Show" on TV, ours was that exact same color and model. I had to sit in the third seat.

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HD stood for Hastily Designed and came out in 1965, our family had one with the massive 149 cubic inch engine (called the Red Motor). In 1966 the HD was replaced by the HR (Hastily Rectified) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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HD stood for Hastily Designed and came out in 1965, our family had one with the massive 149 cubic inch engine (called the Red Motor). In 1966 the HD was replaced by the HR (Hastily Rectified) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


hah i forgot that designation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

yes, dad's HR had the 161, the massive 149 update.
it was a special. not a standard.
extra lashings of chrome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)




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@emerygt350
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and other fans of ford

spring time has sprung down here at last.
out for a walk in the sunshine and the guys down the road with their workshop had this out the front basking in the rays.
ford falcon XY GT fully loaded.
not a HO (bathurst spec) i don't think but probably beyond HO spec since originally built.

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yesterday i caught sight of this for the GM brigade.
holden torana mid 70s - basically bathurst 1000 spec.
complete with endurance fuel tank.
he was gone before i could get close.

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a great era of aussie cars.
all of which could kill you due to their inability to take a corner or avoid gum trees along the edge of the road.

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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Sep 10 2023, 10:48 PM) *

@emerygt350
@Maltese Falcon
and other fans of ford

spring time has sprung down here at last.
out for a walk in the sunshine and the guys down the road with their workshop had this out the front basking in the rays.
ford falcon XY GT fully loaded.
not a HO (bathurst spec) i don't think but probably beyond HO spec since originally built.



yesterday i caught sight of this for the GM brigade.
holden torana mid 70s - basically bathurst 1000 spec.
complete with endurance fuel tank.
he was gone before i could get close.

a great era of aussie cars.
all of which could kill you due to their inability to take a corner or avoid gum trees along the edge of the road.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)



Cool... Nice to see some oldies on the road.
Had a PCA cars and coffee yesterday at a local independent repair shop. Went to scope things out to see if they have worked on 914s (since I will need a transmission swap done soon). Spoke to the owner. He asked me what I drove. I replied the 914 -"Oh, the blue one?".

Now, if I had said a 911, he would have replied which one of the 30 or 40? I was the only one there with the 914 prodigal son.

@wonkipop

Isn't that normal for all things Aussie? I mean, things that can kill you, snakes, insects, crocs, spiders, flightless birds, Roos, ex-girlfriends, politicians, bad Vegemite... why not add a few cars that can't corner? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Aug 19 2023, 05:52 AM) *

QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 19 2023, 06:41 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 07:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

It is exactly a nova! Just mirrorized for the aussies


yeah your are right.
same smooth flank.
those toronado boys influenced the whole vast gm sprawling empire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

now if only australia had stayed on track with the american program.
instead of going all commonwealth again.
there is hope with the bee five twos parking in darwin.

here is the family version of the right hand drive nova.
which haunted my father shortly after he purchase his beloved hr.
known as the kingswood.
corny names.

it got the hip. the mirror nova got the smooth flank.
they both got everything the same from the hip forward.

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I had to go into Palm Springs for an mri and saw one of those bad boys. Wish I had got a shot of it. But I found one on the internet.

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QUOTE(Van B @ Aug 19 2023, 05:41 AM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Aug 19 2023, 07:57 AM) *

The 68 Holden looks like a US Chevy II. My father had a 65 4 door with a three on the tree. First car I ever drove at 13. Nobody home on a summer day, so I took it around the block.

The Monaro looks like a Chevy Nova of the same year.

And we got Subaru Brats here in the states. My friend had one in high school.

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It is exactly a nova! Just mirrorized for the aussies

That is what I thought at first glance!

I have a 67 Nova wagon but it has a frame and small block 427 now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Sep 10 2023, 08:48 PM) *

@emerygt350
@Maltese Falcon
and other fans of ford

spring time has sprung down here at last.
out for a walk in the sunshine and the guys down the road with their workshop had this out the front basking in the rays.
ford falcon XY GT fully loaded.
not a HO (bathurst spec) i don't think but probably beyond HO spec since originally built.

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yesterday i caught sight of this for the GM brigade.
holden torana mid 70s - basically bathurst 1000 spec.
complete with endurance fuel tank.
he was gone before i could get close.

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a great era of aussie cars.
all of which could kill you due to their inability to take a corner or avoid gum trees along the edge of the road.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


Those look nice. I was just at the vintage races at Watkins and somebody had a late 60s Jensen. Very cool.
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@wonkipop ...your Honor did you say the "Utes" ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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@wonkipop ...your Honor did you say the "Utes" ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


What’s a Ute?
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What’s a Ute?


A UTE is a pickup truck built from a sedan body. Like an ElCamnio, Ranchero, or a Subaru Brat.

For some reason Aussies just love them!
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Ute?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1CijCUj8w
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Bingo,
Cousin Vinny nailed that witness (for prosecution) by his blasphemous speaking of cooking Instant Grits !!!
The two Utes were later acquitted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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