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Early door window installation |
totle |
Aug 21 2023, 08:58 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
Hi
I am putting together doors on my 72 GT build. Some questions regarding installation I bought part from 914 rubber. On the triangel window gasket, the original has support for the window going through the gasket. On the new gasket, there is no whole for this support. Is the gasket wrong or do I have to grind of part of the support bracket Also this window has rollers. Is there supposed to be a gasket inside the slider on this side? Can not figure out how that would work with the rollers Attached thumbnail(s) |
BeatNavy |
Aug 21 2023, 09:31 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,924 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Hi Totle,
No, you have the right seal. You have to cut a relief in the rubber - at least that's what I did several years ago in this thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...iangle&st=0 I also recommend watching Ian's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMQt5OYOdqQ Good luck. rc |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Aug 21 2023, 09:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I literally just went through this frustrating process.
I ended up throwing my 914 Rubber triangle window seals in the trash can - I tried to modify them to fit, but didn't like how they were sealing. Too much work and bad end result. I ultimately bought Genuine Porsche triangle window seals and they fit like a glove. Wish I had done that from the start. Here's my thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=360506&hl= Good luck. |
Mikey914 |
Aug 21 2023, 09:55 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
The slot isnt necessary. In gact its just another point of entry for watter. Ww made tge later superceeded seal, because the majotity of the cars dont have the metal tab.
A reminder, we do take returns if this is not for you. Please send back witg your information (so we can credir you). We do take back any seals that are resellable. Thanks, Mark |
totle |
Aug 21 2023, 10:24 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
Thank you all for the reply.
Shipping cost will anyway kill the cost of returning from Norway Guess I just can grind it off. Newer models do not have this though the seal I guess. Regarding the rollers that goes on the window front. Is there any sealing that fits there? |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Aug 21 2023, 10:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The slot isnt necessary. In gact its just another point of entry for watter. Ww made tge later superceeded seal, because the majotity of the cars dont have the metal tab. A reminder, we do take returns if this is not for you. Please send back witg your information (so we can credir you). We do take back any seals that are resellable. Thanks, Mark The slot is necessary if you have older doors that require the slot in order to mount them. Otherwise, significant butchering of the 914 Rubber seals is necessary to try to make them fit the original doors (which I wasn't able to do). Or the owner would need to hacksaw metal (removing the piece that goes up into the slot on the rubber). This should be stated in product info on your site. It's fairly misleading not to state this. People like me have and will continue throw away $100 on these seals trying to make them work with mixed success and then can't return them bc the seals were modified trying to get them to fit. It's a really bad customer experience at an otherwise great 914 store. I hope you'll consider updating the description to save folks with early doors some time, energy, and money on this item. |
914sgofast2 |
Aug 21 2023, 11:48 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
I agree that 914Rubber's triangle window seals do not fit correctly on early doors (1970 to approx. 1972). I had to hacksaw off the metal tab on the triangle window support which stuck up through the old seal because the new seal did not have the hole in the proper place. In addition, the new seal would not compress enough to allow the triangle window to sit deeply enough in the door for the door to close properly. Once I cut the metal tab off the triangle window support bracket, I finally could get the triangle window deep enough into the door for the door/triangle window to be able to close without fouling the A pillar. However, the top of the triangle window still does not seal properly against the A pillar. It took me days of frustration to make one side almost "fit". I am now debating whether to just buy the Porsche factory seals and do it all over again. |
totle |
Aug 21 2023, 12:20 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
Seems like the best option is to go for factory triangle seals unfortunately
Regarding installing main door window My window has the rollers up front. Does it need a fuzzle seal as well. Can not see how it will fit with the rollers On the rear window I have the fuzzle to go in the slider |
Mikey914 |
Aug 21 2023, 12:39 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,669 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Correct,
The front only has the rollers, there is no seal. Yes, at some point the description that modifications are necessary on the early applications that have a bar, were omitted. We will correct this. -Mark |
totle |
Aug 21 2023, 05:18 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
Thank you for all the reply
Getting closer to a finishef car Attached thumbnail(s) |
mepstein |
Aug 21 2023, 05:33 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,272 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Great looking car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Van B |
Aug 21 2023, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,586 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Mmmm beefy!
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rgalla9146 |
Aug 21 2023, 07:04 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,554 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
What a beautiful car !
Tangerine is a great choice for a GT... What engine ? Please post more pics ! |
pfreiburger |
Aug 21 2023, 10:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 6-October 20 From: Fond du Lac, WI Member No.: 24,738 Region Association: None |
I have been very satisfied with various 914 Rubber products and am very glad we have them as a supplier. However, 914 doors are a challenge. I also sprang for the Porsche vent window seals and yes, they are worth it, as they fit. The window wipers were another problem area where I went for the Porsche part. The aftermarket items I started with (not from 914 Rubber) would fall right out of the channel.
Nonetheless, I am just glad that the parts availability situation for our 914’s is as good as it is. We can’t get everything, but what we can get (or eventually find) is pretty decent. (a PCV valve would be nice!) Totie, that car looks beautiful! Those gold wheels are flat perfect! |
rgalla9146 |
Aug 22 2023, 05:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,554 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
Early windows usually have an annoying rattle because of the roller design. Especially when closing the doors. If you install an additional plastic 'star' behind each roller the rattle can be eliminated. This worked on my 1970 car. Early windows are fairly easy to install and remove. Give it a try, it was worth the effort for me |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Aug 22 2023, 05:48 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Agree with all the complimentary comments re: 914 Rubber. We are lucky to have them. I’ve probably spent north of $2,000 on their site over the last 3 years and have been very pleased with all the parts (quality and fit) and excellent customer service by their team. The triangle window seals for my early doors have been the only exception.
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totle |
Aug 23 2023, 07:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
Great support from 914rubber. I have always been pleased.
Mike has reached out to me and we have sorted this our. Thanks Mike |
totle |
Aug 23 2023, 07:27 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 18-October 10 From: Norway Member No.: 12,280 Region Association: Europe |
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