Valve seat size for 34mm exhaust valves, Rebuilding 1.7 heads with larger exhaust valves |
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Valve seat size for 34mm exhaust valves, Rebuilding 1.7 heads with larger exhaust valves |
Green626 |
Aug 26 2023, 08:26 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 22-March 23 From: Washington State Member No.: 27,242 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I am currently in the process of ordering parts to get my 1.7 heads rebuilt-
the 33mm exhaust valves need to be replace so I am going to replace with 34mm. To go with the larger valves i need to get new valve seats and want to make sure i order the right size. Doing a search I can find 32mm, 35.5mm and 37.5mm and larger replacement seats - but it not clear if this is ID or OD of the - Has anyone has done this on your heads? if so which is the correct size to order? Thanks in advance for your input |
brant |
Aug 26 2023, 08:37 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You need a machinist with lots of air cooled experience
Dropped valve seats are a motor killer And air cooled motors are good at dropping them The expertise at this is significant It’s also expensive Sometimes cheaper to buy a better head 1.8/2.0 heads are out there We have this done on race motors The head work including flow porting is the most expensive part of a build |
MikeK |
Aug 26 2023, 08:41 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 15-June 23 From: 80906 Member No.: 27,418 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Other than exhaust valve size, are there any other differences between 1.7 and 1.8 heads? Port shapes or sizes? I'll be going down this path soon.
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brant |
Aug 26 2023, 10:18 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
1.8 heads have a little more meat and much better for a 96 mm cylinders than 1.7 heads which are a bit thin
Plus the bigger valve sizes |
Green626 |
Aug 26 2023, 10:53 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 22-March 23 From: Washington State Member No.: 27,242 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
1.8 heads have a little more meat and much better for a 96 mm cylinders than 1.7 heads which are a bit thin Plus the bigger valve sizes I am trying to make a slight improvement to my 1.7 J heads by going with the 1.8 34mm exhaust valves - as I have to replace them any way - which is why i was asking about the replacement seat size that i need |
brant |
Aug 26 2023, 11:18 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
1.8 heads have a little more meat and much better for a 96 mm cylinders than 1.7 heads which are a bit thin Plus the bigger valve sizes I am trying to make a slight improvement to my 1.7 J heads by going with the 1.8 34mm exhaust valves - as I have to replace them any way - which is why i was asking about the replacement seat size that i need Makes sense But likely cheaper to buy used 1.8 heads than it is to put big valves into a 1.7 head My machinist makes his own seats to size out of quality stock And I would expect an air cooled machinist to handle sourcing the material. And likely be particular about these materials. 1.8 heads are out there and still cheaper than the machine work/labor |
914Sixer |
Aug 26 2023, 04:37 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You can buy new heads from AA Performance for what it will cost to rework your old heads.
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Green626 |
Aug 27 2023, 09:44 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 22-March 23 From: Washington State Member No.: 27,242 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Gents,
I greatly appreciate the input ! Looks like I will consider all options |
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