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| skline |
 Aug 19 2005, 12:42 PM
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Born to Drive  Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Costa Mesa, CA Member No.: 17 Region Association: Southern California  |
So what is the final word? An I still an accepted member here with my totally modified car? Non stock body, non stock engine in fact, there is nothing stock on my car.
I like the stock 914 however, I just saw a Chalon when I was much younger and wanted one so bad and now I have it. I made the car I wanted. It's still a 914 somewhere in there. Parts of it are anyway. |
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| Brett W |
Aug 19 2005, 01:08 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,859 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None 
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If they won't accept you we can go start our own club. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif)
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| soloracer |
Aug 19 2005, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 793 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Calgary Member No.: 538 |
Did someone say rotary? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I was going to go turbo but now I'm going to make mine a three rotor peripheral port N/A to keep the plumbing simple. Can you say 450+ RWHP, lighting fast throttle response, 8000 rpm redline and an exhaust note that sounds like a formula one car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) However, I did just read about a 4 rotor engine kit that keeps the same dimensions as the 3 rotor......hmmmm....... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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| Crazyhippy |
Aug 19 2005, 01:53 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
I realllly like rotaries, but they have trouble making TQ, so you have to either go ultra light weight, or play w/ the gearing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
A really good friend has an early rx7 that he ran SCCA solo2 for a long time. That is a fun car, and he's nuts behind the wheel (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) Drove a rotary powered lotus 7 kit and it would set you back hard. Thing had almost no vibrations at all, even in a lightweight, un-insulated car. Very cool. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) |
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| grantsfo |
Aug 19 2005, 02:12 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Big Corvettes and Camaro's do great on some AX courses as well. Your're just never going to get the balance of a lighter 4 or 6 cylinder 914 in a big clunky/awkward V8 conversion. SBC V8 is great for open road cruising and big long straights. Hell a Cayenne can lap some tracks faster than some 914-6's. Doesnt make it a better car.
I just never understood why anyone would want to ruin a 914 with a big nasty iron block Chevy engine that is always on the verge of overheating. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Crazyhippy |
Aug 19 2005, 02:31 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
HUH? i've watche da 500+ hp SBC lap LVMS for 30 min in uncomfortably warm weather (high 80-low 90's), and when it came into the pits the temp guage read 190. As it sat the temp climbed slightly (heat soak) and peaked right at the 210 mark. This is measured just after the water leaves the heads (hottest coolant in the car). What is an Average CHT in a Pors/VW motor? So who is right on the verge of overheating?? And i haven't seen a 14 run down th front straight near as hard as that street car did, including the 14-6 race cars (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) |
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| Brett W |
Aug 19 2005, 02:42 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,859 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None
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Come on Grant. The SBC is no more lowly, and less endowed than the T4. We are talking tractor motors here. Two valves, pushrods, aircooled, watercooled, all designed in the 40s and 50s. Nothing radical. To bad the T4 is no where near as durable as the SBC.
An engine overheats because the system is not capable of removing the heat from the engine. My T4 would overheat at 80mph on a summer day on the highway. Because my engine would turn 4200rpms. The stock oil cooler could not keep up. The SBC in a 914 that overheats isn't beacause the motor is garbage. The cooling system is just suffering from poor engineering. Same thing happens to a stock 914 when you slap a 911 fan on there. |
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| grantsfo |
Aug 19 2005, 04:22 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Just dont get stuck in slow moving traffic on a summer day with that SBC. ...Ouch I know the truth hurts, but at least you'll see some cool hot rods pulled over to the side of the road with you as the air cooled guys breeze by. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| mrihop |
Aug 19 2005, 04:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 6-November 04 From: Pahrump, NV Member No.: 3,068 Region Association: None |
I live in LA traffic with my V8 914. I have a Renegade Hybrids cooling system, and it NEVER goes over 190 in any conditions, and stays at 180 in traffic even now in the summer time.... I invite you to follow me from LA to Vegas up all those hills in 100+ degree weather at 100 mph...we'll see who overheats first. I know I won't... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| redshift |
Aug 19 2005, 04:42 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Same trip to Vegas in a motorcoach, at 50 will kill an average man.
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| grantsfo |
Aug 19 2005, 04:44 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Can you afford the gas money to drive that far in a SBC? Drove my 1.8 that route more than a few times with no overheating issues and got 36 mpg. So I'd have money to gamble with once we arrived. |
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| mrihop |
Aug 19 2005, 06:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 6-November 04 From: Pahrump, NV Member No.: 3,068 Region Association: None |
19 miles per gallon for me last time I did it at 75 mph, and I still don't have an H gear for my tranny....
It didn't bog down on any hill (obviously, being in my optimum torque range the entire time), when I saw a truck's blinker come on, I sped past the trucks instead of dropping to 60 mph for about a minute for a truck to pass like I have to in other cars I drive to Vegas. Running dual Flowmasters rendered my radio nearly useless at that high of rpm with the wind noise, even with windows up and roof on (rained on me when I took my car up that way). I wouldn't actually do 100 mph all the way to Vegas. With the stock gearing, my engine would probably tear apart spending 2.5 hours at ~5,000 rpm (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) ...Unless I build a 302 screamer...but then I'd probably loose in town streetability, and I love my car as a fast fun street cruiser. |
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| mrihop |
Aug 19 2005, 06:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 6-November 04 From: Pahrump, NV Member No.: 3,068 Region Association: None |
Oh yeah....I've always been a Chevy guy. The big reason I'm into the 914 thing is because of the conversion. I've always had an interest in these little cars, but reading about some of the conversions really lit my fire...
I've built and worked on quite a few SBCs so I'm definately biased towards them. It's also a neat fact that we're comparing a Chevy engine that is popular as a 350 or 5.7L against the Porsche engines that are in the range of ~3.0L. The power produced by these little engines truely blows my mind. As well as they hold up is pretty amazing too... The power to displacement ratio of the Porsche engines is usually better than the Chevy, but I guess that can also very based on how deep your pocket is. |
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| BIGKAT_83 |
Aug 19 2005, 09:12 PM
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I didn't think a VW got that kind of gas mileage. Everyone I had was in the low 20mpg if you drove them at a safe interstate speed. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Bob (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Aug 19 2005, 09:31 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,257 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
i have yet to see a SBC-914 that can keep up with a stock-ish /4 in the twisties of an AX course ... of course, if you're more interested in going fast in a straight line (yawn, boooooring) then by all means, go for it ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) Andy <- ducking for cover ... |
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| grantsfo |
Aug 19 2005, 09:50 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Me too. |
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Aug 19 2005, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,101 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Overheating can sometimes be due to engine problems. Insufficient bearing tolerances, rust/corrosion in the water jackets, improper timing, incorrect head/intake manifold gasket installation, or a bad thermostat are some of the things that can cause overheating. |
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| Crazyhippy |
Aug 19 2005, 10:08 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
AX AX AX.. i once again refer you to my moped analogy. AX is like riding a motorcycle around your back yard... A moped will beat a new Gixxer. Does that mean a moped is better than the Gixxer? I dont think so.
I can push a shoping cart through the aisles at Vons faster than your 914 can negotiate them (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| 914GT |
Aug 19 2005, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,101 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Tucson Member No.: 2,923 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Totally untrue. May be the case with some V8 conversions, but not all. My car runs cool in heavy traffic in 100+ temperatures. If what you say was true then 914 V8 conversions would never get through a summer in southern Arizona. Some of the air cooled engines can't take the heat here either. |
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| J P Stein |
Aug 19 2005, 11:25 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
What are you....some fuckin' highschool kid trying to start a flame war? You stated your opinion about AX once & nobody gave a shit then. Give it a rest. Maybe you could add something constructive...like what you are racing now? Maybe a pic of your race car? |
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