15w40 vs 15w50 oil Options

[Geezer914]

Will 15w40 oil give a higher oil pressure than 15w50?

[windforfun]

Try it & let us know.

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[Geezer914]

Running Driven DT 15w50 oil and a CB Performance 26 mm oil pump. Start up I get 78 psi at 75 degrees. When the oil reaches 210° my pressure is at 35 psi at 3400 rpm. just barely making 10 psi for every 1000 rpm. So if I am getting 78 psi when the oil is cold 15w, I am assuming my oil pressure will increase by running 40w when hot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[87m491]

Running Driven DT 15w50 oil and a CB Performance 26 mm oil pump. Start up I get 78 psi at 75 degrees. When the oil reaches 210° my pressure is at 35 psi at 3400 rpm. just barely making 10 psi for every 1000 rpm. So if I am getting 78 psi when the oil is cold 15w, I am assuming my oil pressure will increase by running 40w when hot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

By that logic won't 50w make higher pressure than 40w?
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[brant]

Oil cooler?
Compression?
AFR?
Mileage?
Which brand of pressure relief valve?

Could be tolerances
Or Heat?

[Geezer914]

Oil cooler, yes
Tangerine pressure release valve
9:1 compression
1.8L Ljet
2056cc
50mm throttle body
CB Performance 26mm oil pump

87m491
the thinner weight oil at lower temperatures is giving me higher pressure. The 15w50 oil maybe too restrictive. when hot

[Geezer914]

1 order 4 qts of Driven GP-1 15w40. Should have it by Tuesday, will swap it out and see what happens.

[Superhawk996]

There is an awful lot embedded in your question and situation

In general higher viscosity = higher pressure assuming all other things like temperature , clearances, pump RPM are kept the same.

Do not discount the fact that your CB pump is under size to a type 4 oil pump bore and has increased internal leakage vs T4 OEM pump and will leak more as temperature of the case increases.

10 psi / 1000 rpm is perfectly adequate when hot.. More pressure is not always better when it comes to lubrication.

[Superhawk996]

the thinner weight oil at lower temperatures is giving me higher pressure. The 15w50 oil maybe too restrictive. when hot

The cold engine case and tightened bearing clearances are the dominating factor - not the lower oil viscosity rating.

[87m491]

87m491
the thinner weight oil at lower temperatures is giving me higher pressure. The 15w50 oil maybe too restrictive. when hot

I think the take away here is higher pressure at lower temperature. A 10W-40 could also give you higher startup pressure when cold vs the 40 when hot it's the nature of the beast. You also have to remember when you're dealing with blends the weight characteristics are not an on/off switch so much as a continuum.



https://blog.amsoil.com/understanding-oil-viscosity/

[Geezer914]

Changed oil to Driven GP-1 15w40. It was green just like the old Kendal green oil. The temperature was 0nly 66 degrees today in NJ. Took it for a 45 minute ride. My oil temp was around 200 degrees and the oil pressure was 38 psi at 3400 rpm and 30 psi at 3000 rpm. So, I gained 3psi over the 15w50. I hope I can catch a warmer day so the oil temp is around 210-215 degrees and finalize the results.

[brant]

I fear the ambient temp was your oil pressing gain

[emerygt350]

I have been using some QSFS euro 5w-40 to compare to my good old 0w40 mobile one euro. So far my feeling is the mobile1 held up better under temperature but I need to beat on it a little longer. Hanging just under the t on my 73 oil temp gauge. Need to verify my sender, but oil temp somewhere between 215 and 220 I suspect, 3200 rpm it's giving me 40. I think the euro did a little better, will find out on my next change.

Ambient shouldn't affect it since oil temp is oil temp, but different oils behave differently as far as friction and heat. Pushing sludge is harder and collisions increase etc.

[windforfun]

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[emerygt350]

Nobody covers Bowie anymore, I need to talk to the band and see what we can do...

[Geezer914]

Did more research, the 40 weight oil will flow better than the 50 weight thus reducing the the oil temperature. 50 weight will make the pump work harder reducing horse power and fuel economy. 50 weight is used in racing engines with larger clearances. Oil temperature was 215F on a 90F day. Oil pressure was 35 psi with 15w50.
So by using 15w40 vs 15W50 I am getting slightly higher oil pressure and slightly lower oil temps with the 15w40. It's too bad I am experimenting with this in October as I would like another 90F day to make a true comparison.

[emerygt350]

If a hot day means hotter oil than you may see the same advantage just hotter oil and lower pressures.

Have you added the tangerine racing oil valve? I added it and my oil temps are much steadier than they were before. It modulates the oil entering the oil cooler. Cheap and take 10seconds to install.

[87m491]

Ambient shouldn't affect it since oil temp is oil temp,

Hhhmmm, I'm sure there are parts of the engine where you could measure temps that are least affected by ambient, but if ambient had no effect then why use ambient air to flow over the oil coolers?
The fact that their called oil coolers suggests ambient matters in temps, no?

[Geezer914]

Ambient shouldn't affect it since oil temp is oil temp,

Hhhmmm, I'm sure there are parts of the engine where you could measure temps that are least affected by ambient, but if ambient had no effect then why use ambient air to flow over the oil coolers?
The fact that their called oil coolers suggests ambient matters in temps, no?

Tangerine oil pressure regulator installed

[brant]

Yes ambient effects engine cooling
Which effects oil temps