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> 2270 Build thread, Looking forward to making all of the mistakes!
vjb206
post Dec 11 2023, 08:42 AM
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Hey folks! I've got...
  • Case halves from an old 1.7 (cleaned as best I could)
  • 2270 crank + P&C kit
  • #163/86b Web Cam
  • 2.0 heads with 44X36 valves, where I'll be installing dual springs and 38mm exhaust valves
  • Upgraded oil pump and other goodies
So my first question for the community has to do with ensuring the rotating mass is spinning freely/correctly…

I started by measuring all of the the main journals on the crank and I got a range from 2.358” - 2.360” (I used a digital caliper and I'm pretty sure I did this correctly).

Then I “dry-fit” Silverline STD/STD main bearings into the case (sans crank), torqued everything down, and got 0.003” in radial play (I used a cylinder bore dial gauge for the first time, and I think I did it correctly).

The spec-sheet says radial play should be between 0.06” - 0.10” (0.03” - 0.09” for #2); and I have 0.003." I'm a MINIMUM of 0.057" off, is that normal? What's my next step?
  1. Stop pretending I know what I'm doing and take it to a machinist for test-fitting and honing (I'd like to keep cost down so this is my less preferred option)
  2. DIY: hone 0.06" off all bearings (what's the right honing tool / approach here?)
  3. Order different bearings (if so, which?)
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vjb206   2270 Build thread   Dec 11 2023, 08:42 AM
930cabman   Did you get the rotating components balanced? Not...   Dec 11 2023, 09:09 AM
Superhawk996   Hopefully this doesn’t come off as condescending...   Dec 11 2023, 09:32 AM
Montreal914   To measure the crank, I would use a micrometer, no...   Dec 11 2023, 09:51 AM
vjb206   Great responses! Thank you for the engagement....   Dec 11 2023, 10:47 AM
Montreal914   Van Svenson still has his YouTube videos on his ch...   Dec 11 2023, 10:58 AM
Superhawk996   Regarding info in the link you provided - all thos...   Dec 11 2023, 10:59 AM
vjb206   Measurements are in MM. Excuse me while I–––...   Dec 11 2023, 11:21 AM
Superhawk996   Measurements are in MM. Excuse me while I––...   Dec 11 2023, 11:48 AM
vjb206   Measurements are in MM. Excuse me while I––...   Dec 27 2023, 01:09 PM
930cabman   hate to ask, but have you built engines in the pas...   Dec 11 2023, 11:52 AM
rhodyguy   I did not note this in the intro. Remove, tap and ...   Dec 11 2023, 12:56 PM
rhodyguy   Admin delete please.   Dec 11 2023, 12:58 PM
914sgofast2   I would suggest you read the post named "Chea...   Dec 11 2023, 01:08 PM
technicalninja   I would suggest you read the post named "Che...   Dec 11 2023, 01:41 PM
technicalninja   I'm a big believer when making a "compari...   Dec 27 2023, 01:48 PM
mepstein   “: Assuming this is normal, my next step will be...   Dec 27 2023, 01:56 PM
technicalninja   I'd also convert everything to US standard ins...   Dec 27 2023, 02:05 PM
Superhawk996   Yeah - hit pause. Something is wacko - probably m...   Dec 27 2023, 04:34 PM
Superhawk996   Also I want to take a second and commend you for l...   Dec 27 2023, 04:58 PM
technicalninja   :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: Sup...   Dec 27 2023, 05:24 PM
cgnj   I built my motor in around y2k. The choices were V...   Dec 27 2023, 06:35 PM
vjb206   Again, really, really great advice. Thank you @[u...   Dec 28 2023, 03:52 PM
Superhawk996   So I called my local machinist and he said that ...   Dec 28 2023, 07:47 PM
technicalninja   Google search "how to properly use Plasti-gau...   Dec 28 2023, 04:36 PM
technicalninja   I have maybe a better suggestion for you right now...   Dec 28 2023, 05:53 PM
Superhawk996   Duplicate   Dec 28 2023, 08:13 PM
Superhawk996   Purchase a type 4 rebuild manual. I don't kn...   Dec 28 2023, 08:15 PM
Superhawk996   I should have been more clear. You can only use P...   Dec 28 2023, 07:31 PM
cgnj   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Dec 28 2023, 08:05 PM
Eric_Ciampa   First time engine builder here. Building a 2270 an...   Dec 28 2023, 11:40 PM
technicalninja   That's the way... Plasti-gauge can only be u...   Dec 29 2023, 01:45 AM
Superhawk996   It's HARD to properly torque up a rod without...   Dec 29 2023, 08:23 AM
technicalninja   @Superhawk996 I'm guessing you're like m...   Dec 29 2023, 01:59 PM
Superhawk996   And here's yet another shortcoming in the ...   Dec 30 2023, 01:20 AM
Jack Standz   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Dec 30 2023, 02:40 PM
Front yard mechanic   Holy cow if Vbj listens to all this expert advice ...   Dec 29 2023, 07:02 PM
Superhawk996   Holy cow if Vbj listens to all this expert advice...   Dec 30 2023, 01:45 AM
vjb206   Ok we're in business and you guys are to thank...   Dec 29 2023, 07:26 PM
Montreal914   Next step: More measuring, reading, and finding a...   Dec 30 2023, 01:21 PM
930cabman   Two comments, hoping you removed material from the...   Dec 29 2023, 08:16 PM
Superhawk996   :trophy: Congrats - while it’s apart don’t ...   Dec 29 2023, 09:06 PM
technicalninja   Even today I'll make three distinct measuremen...   Dec 29 2023, 10:04 PM
technicalninja   I've read many of the oil pressure/problems wi...   Dec 30 2023, 03:19 PM
technicalninja   Target Down! This is why I get into threads. T...   Dec 30 2023, 04:34 PM
Superhawk996   I started a T4 pump thread a while back but have n...   Dec 30 2023, 05:19 PM
technicalninja   Life gets in the way... Just before we moved to G...   Dec 30 2023, 05:47 PM
Jack Standz   https://pmbperformance.com/products/jaycee-...w-oi...   Dec 31 2023, 09:31 AM
Montreal914   Jorge (George) at European Motor Works in Hawthorn...   Dec 31 2023, 11:37 AM
technicalninja   @Jack Standz Thank you for posting! Once ag...   Dec 31 2023, 11:40 AM
technicalninja   Jorge (George) at European Motor Works in Hawthor...   Dec 31 2023, 11:45 AM
Superhawk996   Ah - the link to the Samba T4 pump rebuild is as ...   Dec 31 2023, 12:17 PM
technicalninja   Ah - the link to the Samba T4 pump rebuild is as...   Dec 31 2023, 02:18 PM
Superhawk996   I’m not going to comment too much on the Tangeri...   Dec 31 2023, 02:41 PM
technicalninja   You might look closer at that valve... I was EXAC...   Dec 31 2023, 03:36 PM
cgnj   @vjb206 This is a rod modification you may want ...   Jan 1 2024, 03:10 PM
technicalninja   Just looked through that. Thanks, cgnj! Rod m...   Jan 1 2024, 04:35 PM


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