Sale Pending - My purchase of 9140431482, Just facts; no spin or opinion Options

[Rufus]

Broken fuel tank screen sock:

[KELTY360]

Regardless of the thread title, I suspect there’s an underlying opinion here. Do you think you were deceived? If so, by whom?

[Rufus]

Carb debris (the first possibly a piece of Porsche fabric reinforced fuel line), sediment and torn carb knitted nylon mesh inlet filter.

[NARP74]

Rufus is busy today

[NARP74]

At some point this will get to opinion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

[burton73]

@Rufus

Body/Interior
Started no-expense spared restoration in 2014. Paint and body work done by Kirsten Rillos at Rillos Restoration, Kent Wa. Interior by Steve Shepp, Classic Interiors, Ballard Wa.

- Full repaint in original Tangerine (23)
- Only minor surface rust repair needed in a few spots (above left rear taillight, below windshield frame, etc.).
- No structural rust or other body damage.

----------With what we see now, this statement is not even close. Your car will need a new floor pan put in. Hopefully it is only that. This is a real investment and if this was my factory 6 I would want it perfect. That is just the way I am. It may be curse but a spare no expense restoration is just that. An open checkbook------ These pictures kind of make me sick to my stomach. Try to find some light in this, at least you would make sure your clutch tube is right on.

Never give up on finding the original Engen case, you never know. It took me 17 years to find mine and I was lucky that one of our 914 brothers saw it was possibly for sale.

Best Bob B

[Rufus]

Regardless of the thread title, I suspect there’s an underlying opinion here. Do you think you were deceived? If so, by whom?

Deceived? Maybe. Mislead? More likely. Struck by incompetence, carelessness, negligence of otherwise respected people or businesses? Even more likely. Defrauded? Who knows? There’s a group of people or businesses who had a hand in this. Karma’s a B _ _ _ _ .

I have previous experience with a large financial loss that more than one party had a hand in. From that I learned it’s useless to attempt pinning blame or seeking restitution here. I simply want others here to draw their own conclusions from my experience. And maybe that’ll inform them if and when they consider whom to do business with in the future. And wrt that large financial loss, I spearheaded the successful years long effort to recover $486,000 for my family, an effort that included briefly winning a summary judgement against the IRS (they call me Columbo) during the years my aborted 914/6 project was in storage at Rothsport.

Others who’ve worked on the car for the PO include Akers and Chris’s German Auto in Seattle.

[rgalla9146]

The braided stainless fuel line and two clamps are incorrect.
The geometry of the throttle linkage starts at the toe board and ends at the two
drop links at the carbs. Necessary parts include a good gas pedal, a smooth
cable, good bushings and all correct 914 6 linkage parts.
You have the correct fuel delivery tube between the carbs but it appears to have
been modified. It should also be attached to the bulkhead by three
nylon snaps.
Your transaxle is a rear shifter converted to a side shifter.
Be sure to get the correct conversion bushing for the firewall.

[KELTY360]

Regardless of the thread title, I suspect there’s an underlying opinion here. Do you think you were deceived? If so, by whom?

Deceived? Maybe. Mislead? More likely. Struck by incompetence, carelessness, negligence of otherwise respected people or businesses? Even more likely. There’s a group of people or businesses who had a hand in this.

I have previous experience with a large financial loss that more than one party had a hand in. From that I learned it’s useless to attempt pinning blame or seeking restitution. That’s not my goal. I simply want others here to draw their own conclusions from my experience. And maybe that’ll inform those who may consider doing business with those I cite in the future.

Others who’ve worked on the car for the PO include Akers and Chris’s German Auto in Seattle.

If you had travelled to the west coast to view the car in person, would your decision have been different?

[Rufus]

“If you had travelled to the west coast to view the car in person, would your decision have been different?“

Information not discovered and reported in the PPI weakened my negotiating position. If I’d known about the rust, I’d have run like Hell. Regarding the others, I might have paid less. As mentioned previously, my purpose here isn’t to pin blame or seek restitution. It’s to inform others in the community of pitfalls to watch out for.

I can’t, but at age 73, if I could get anything back, it’d be the time spent up to now and still being unsure when or if I’ll enjoy driving the car.

[mb911]

So if I read this right there is about 70k invested in this car? It is a real six so that falls right in line. I figure my conversion has to be worth 40-50 range and it’s not a real six. I think from a value standpoint you’re fine. The car over all is very nice. I do think the PPI should have picked up 11k worth of service and parts needed to set the car to par. This does also reinforce trying to do as much work yourself as you can. I struggle working on other people’s cars because I am spending their money with my suggested repairs.

Anyway I hope your able to enjoy the car

[930cabman]

Much of life is in the past, at least for many of us old guys here. We can learn from our experiences or not, either way nothing behind us can be changed.

Your car is a born 914/6 and that in itself is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Get the items in need of repairs in order and enjoy her in good health

Overall she looks great and probably runs the same

[mb911]

Much of life is in the past, at least for many of us old guys here. We can learn from our experiences or not, either way nothing behind us can be changed.

Your car is a born 914/6 and that in itself is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

Get the items in need of repairs in order and enjoy her in good health

Overall she looks great and probably runs the same

Well said. I think I am one of the younger guys on here but 100% agree.

[Cairo94507]

I feel your disappointment. Relying on others to assess a car is a gamble.

The best path forward is to decide how you want the car when it is done.

For my 6, I decided to do a full rotisserie restoration. I (ultimately) put my 6 in the talented hands of Kent Simmons, (Auto Art Customs, Torrance, CA) Jim Geer and crew. The end result was a 6 awarded a Blue Ribbon at Werks Reunion in 2022. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) . You can see my "build" threads in my signature.

We are now getting ready to drop the 9K mile 3.2, (for sale in the Classified) and with the help of some great, talented, knowledgable friends, put my '95 stock 18K mile 993 3.6 motor in. I will document the entire process and post for anyone interested to follow.

I am into my car a good chunk of money, but I love it. I have had 3 offers to buy it, all over $100K. I can't imagine ever selling my 6 while I am still able to drive. It is just a joy to drive and worth every dollar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

At the end of the journey, it was all worth it and I learned a lot. I post everything about my 6 in the hope others learn from my experience. Life is too short to look in the rear-view (mostly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[fasthonda]

If only the floor pan has rust and the rest is solid and the powertrain is strong, I'd say you still got a good deal considering its a real six. People are asking $80k plus them now.

If the floor pan rust is severe, the PPI surely should have caught that.

If the car makes you sick, sell it. If not just go make it right. After loosing tons of money in my 401k with swings in the market, having to spend a or loose a little on a car seems insignificant to me anymore.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

[lalee914]

I saw this car at Rennsport IV in 2011. Have a couple photos to post.

[lalee914]

It was for sale at that time.

[lalee914]

This photo is from July 2013. Don't know where it was taken.

[infraredcalvin]

Sidebar: That looks like @rick918-S 6 in the background, before it became up close and personal with the power pole…

[Krieger]

I see that you paid a significant sum for a PPI. The work that was required to repair the car was much more extensive than the PPI would would suggest.