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> Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great!
Cairo94507
post Feb 18 2024, 10:11 AM
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Hi Everyone -

Some may be aware I recently bought the '95 993 3.6 motor Chris (Tygaboy) had for sale. I must have looked at his ad a 100 times (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) and finally could not resist. Had it not been Chris and pretty local to me I probably would have passed.

The 3.6 has approximately 18K miles on it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) and came out of the 993 in 1997 following an accident. The engine was properly stored with rocker arms loosed and oil poured in the cylinders and turned over regularly. I pulled the plugs and it turned over like a new engine. Squirted some oil in, reinstalled the plugs and have turned it over a few times since it came to my garage patiently awaiting the swap.

Greg T. (master mechanic/technician/body man and painter) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) and a very good friend agreed to tackle this project at his garage. So on Friday (2/16/24), we drove to Greg's (it ran great) and a short 5+ hours later the 3.2 was out. We took our time and the biggest hassle was pulling the wiring harness for the 3.2 out of the car without damaging anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The next day we trailered my Six in Greg's enclosed trailer, pulled by his wife's beautiful Dodge Ram diesel, to the Red Barn! Yes, Chris, (master fabricator if ever there was one) another great guy and good friend @Tygaboy agreed to do some metal fabrication as a part of this swap. After seeing Chris' skills on multiple projects, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I knew if someone was going to be cutting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) and welding (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) on my car. I really wanted it to be him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

After looking at the current oil cooler setup, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) it was decided to leave my existing GT style oil cooler and add the 2 Spal 6.5" fans and see how that works. My 3.2 stayed cool while driving unless I got in stop 'n go traffic (What? None of that in the Bay Area!) and then the temperature would creep up. We will relocate my oil cooler thermostat from the front trunk (where the factory installed them in the GT cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) ) to the engine firewall- where we all agreed it belonged. I have to give Chris credit for this plan as I originally was going to swap in a larger oil cooler and open the nose panel of my car up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) to mate to the new cooler with a nice duct (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) . Chris pulled me back from the edge and said he believed cutting the nose panel out may not be necessary once the fans are installed.

Of course that is not all Chris is doing. My car has factory, non-retractible, seat belts and my brother and I prefer retractible belts. So we are installing retractible belts. Chris will do the fabrication; he did this to his LS car and it works flawlessly.

OK, here are some pictures to get this thread rolling; I hope you enjoy following along as this stuff happens.

Again, a sincere thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tiphat2.gif) to Greg T, Chris B., my brother Bob, HB (2 914 owner and good friend), for their support and encouragement. And thanks to anyone who has done a 3.6 swap into a 914 and posted about it so we have a road map. I will document our project to hopefully make it easier for others to do the same.

Cheers- Michael (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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Cairo94507   Cairo's Six - 3.6 in and running great!   Feb 18 2024, 10:11 AM
rick 918-S   What size line do you have running up to the coole...   Mar 17 2024, 07:36 AM
tygaboy   What size line do you have running up to the cool...   Mar 17 2024, 08:52 AM
rick 918-S   [quote name='rick 918-S' post='3134359' date...   Mar 17 2024, 08:58 AM
SirAndy   [quote name='rick 918-S' post='3134359' date...   Mar 17 2024, 05:21 PM
tygaboy   Fan mount/lower shroud V2 looks like it's a wi...   Mar 17 2024, 03:54 PM
roundtwo   Fan mount/lower shroud V2 looks like it's a w...   Mar 18 2024, 11:56 AM
Cairo94507   Loving it! This is exactly why I knew Chris a...   Mar 17 2024, 04:29 PM
Cairo94507   @SirAndy - Thanks Andy- That makes me feel even m...   Mar 18 2024, 06:00 AM
Cairo94507   Oh, and just to follow up, the 3.2 arrived safe an...   Mar 18 2024, 06:17 AM
tygaboy   I'm reusing the pre-existing cooler mounting h...   Mar 19 2024, 02:35 PM
930cabman   I'm reusing the pre-existing cooler mounting ...   Mar 20 2024, 01:48 PM
Cairo94507   :trophy: :beer2:   Mar 20 2024, 06:07 AM
tygaboy   Driver's side seatbelt retractor mount: - area...   Mar 20 2024, 02:10 PM
roundtwo   Diggin' the whole oil cooler system... :Qarl: ...   Mar 21 2024, 10:54 AM
tygaboy   Really? No one? Really? I need you folks to pay mo...   Mar 21 2024, 04:18 PM
fiacra   Really? No one? Really? I need you folks to pay m...   Mar 30 2024, 03:48 PM
tygaboy   I used the redo as an opportunity to make a couple...   Mar 21 2024, 04:22 PM
horizontally-opposed   I used the redo as an opportunity to make a coupl...   Mar 24 2024, 10:21 AM
Cairo94507   If I had 1 year to design this, I couldn't. C...   Mar 21 2024, 07:14 PM
tygaboy   I'll be posting this on my channel at some poi...   Mar 23 2024, 10:08 AM
JmuRiz   Good looking work!! Let me know if you pl...   Mar 27 2024, 10:19 AM
tygaboy   Good looking work!! Let me know if you p...   Mar 27 2024, 10:45 AM
Cairo94507   Damn that is looking so nice; thank you Chris. :t...   Mar 27 2024, 11:17 AM
JmuRiz   Wow, good looking preview shot. I like!   Mar 27 2024, 11:30 AM
tygaboy   Shroud top, beading added, awaiting final trimming...   Mar 29 2024, 05:00 PM
rick 918-S   Looks like that will.work nicely   Mar 30 2024, 06:24 AM
Cairo94507   Amazing work Chris- Thank you. :beer2:   Mar 30 2024, 06:49 AM
tygaboy   Final trimming nearly complete.   Mar 30 2024, 03:18 PM
Shivers   That is really nice. :)   Mar 30 2024, 03:44 PM
East coaster   Looks great! Are the sides to be welded to mec...   Mar 30 2024, 04:56 PM
tygaboy   Looks great! Are the sides to be welded to me...   Apr 1 2024, 02:54 PM
KELTY360   [quote name='East coaster' post='3136912' date='M...   Apr 2 2024, 10:37 PM
Cairo94507   Jesus...that looks great!   Mar 30 2024, 05:19 PM
tygaboy   Jesus...that looks great! @Cairo94507 Mich...   Mar 30 2024, 05:50 PM
Cairo94507   :trophy: :beer2:   Mar 31 2024, 06:53 AM
Cairo94507   I could never thank Chris and Martin enough. This...   Apr 1 2024, 03:03 PM
East coaster   Very nice!   Apr 1 2024, 05:04 PM
Root_Werks   Moving right along for sure! Big six in a non...   Apr 2 2024, 12:52 PM
roundtwo   Santa’s helpers knocking it out of the park. Loo...   Apr 2 2024, 09:06 PM
Steve   Amazing work!! Congrats!!   Apr 2 2024, 09:39 PM
tygaboy   For those who may enjoy seeing how I made that shr...   Apr 4 2024, 07:20 AM
Cairo94507   I just watched Chris' magic; I am left without...   Apr 4 2024, 08:20 AM
burton73   Always enjoyable to see the work and process at th...   Apr 4 2024, 10:44 AM
Cairo94507   OK, we picked up my car from Chris ( @Tygaboy ) a...   Apr 8 2024, 08:34 AM
Steve   Nice man cave!! I need to down size. My ...   Apr 8 2024, 09:04 AM
mepstein   Stock 964/993 cars only have the one front cooler ...   Apr 8 2024, 10:02 AM
Cairo94507   Thanks Mark. I hope that is the case; but, we hav...   Apr 8 2024, 10:29 AM
tygaboy   @Cairo94507 "I am pretty sure we all heard a...   Apr 8 2024, 11:14 AM
roundtwo   Always an entertaining and educational experience ...   Apr 9 2024, 08:39 AM
roundtwo   @cairo94507   Apr 9 2024, 08:51 AM
Cairo94507   @tygaboy - The honor was all mine. I really am t...   Apr 9 2024, 09:25 AM
roundtwo   Great news. Can’t wait to see what you come up w...   Apr 9 2024, 04:42 PM
Cairo94507   @roundtwo - Todd, That oil line thermostat in the...   Apr 9 2024, 06:15 PM
Krieger   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Apr 9 2024, 11:07 PM
roundtwo   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Apr 9 2024, 11:12 PM
Cairo94507   :rotfl: I know, right?   Apr 10 2024, 06:37 AM
Cairo94507   Today we removed the oil cooler thermostat and flu...   Apr 10 2024, 05:29 PM
Cairo94507   Made a little bit of progress- relocated Mocal the...   Apr 14 2024, 06:09 AM
SirAndy   ... Then installed the 3.6 fuel pump under the pa...   Apr 14 2024, 09:06 AM
tygaboy   Progress! Gonna be a ripper...   Apr 14 2024, 08:51 AM
Cairo94507   Ohhhhh noooooo; we shall have to look into that. ...   Apr 14 2024, 09:22 AM
East coaster   On my 3.6 I used the 75-76 mount/cover to mount my...   Apr 14 2024, 09:29 AM
Cairo94507   I just happen to know where I can get my hands on ...   Apr 14 2024, 11:07 AM
tygaboy   You can get the pump mount kits new from Restorati...   Apr 14 2024, 11:10 AM
Cairo94507   I confirmed the 993 has the fuel pump under the ga...   Apr 15 2024, 09:00 AM
Steve   I plan on using the same 044/GT3 pump that I used ...   Apr 15 2024, 09:15 AM
Cairo94507   @Steve Lucky; 1 less issue to deal with. :beer2...   Apr 15 2024, 12:08 PM
Cairo94507   Started on the engine modifications today and had ...   Apr 17 2024, 07:58 PM
Luke M   Started on the engine modifications today and had...   Apr 18 2024, 05:32 AM
tygaboy   That serpentine set up is beautiful. Nice progress...   Apr 17 2024, 08:51 PM
Spoke   That serpentine set up is beautiful. Nice progres...   Apr 18 2024, 05:29 AM
Cairo94507   Thanks Chris and Luke. I checked with James Patri...   Apr 18 2024, 06:21 AM
ClayPerrine   Just my .02, but I think the stock /6 mount is ina...   Apr 18 2024, 06:43 AM
Cairo94507   Thanks Clay. I will call James and speak with him...   Apr 18 2024, 06:52 AM
ClayPerrine   One other thing. I don't know if the stock si...   Apr 18 2024, 07:10 AM
Cairo94507   Will do. :beer2:   Apr 18 2024, 08:02 AM
technicalninja   That serpentine set up is beautiful. Nice progre...   Apr 18 2024, 08:36 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='Spoke' post='3140197' date='Apr 18 2...   Apr 19 2024, 07:49 AM
rick 918-S   [quote name='Spoke' post='3140197' date='Apr 18 ...   Apr 19 2024, 05:38 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='3140362' date='Ap...   Apr 20 2024, 05:07 AM
rick 918-S   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='3140362' date='A...   Apr 20 2024, 06:01 AM
Root_Werks   Not to hijack the thread, but the conversation aro...   Apr 18 2024, 08:58 AM
Root_Werks   Found it: http://www.offroadvw.net/tech/wes/fan.h...   Apr 18 2024, 09:00 AM
technicalninja   Thanks! That link was interesting... We expe...   Apr 18 2024, 10:36 AM
Cairo94507   Spent the day getting oil lines sorted; still a li...   Apr 24 2024, 07:11 AM
SirAndy   Then Greg ( :trophy: ) tackled the engine tins us...   Apr 24 2024, 08:59 AM
East coaster   Looks great! This is bringing back memories fr...   Apr 24 2024, 07:42 AM
Steve   :beer2: Awesome job! Looks great!!   Apr 24 2024, 08:05 AM
Cairo94507   Hi Andy - Yes sir; saw how you did your tins and w...   Apr 24 2024, 02:30 PM
Cairo94507   Spent some more time yesterday and finished up as ...   Apr 27 2024, 07:06 AM
tygaboy   Looking REEEEEEEEALY good, Michael! (That Gre...   Apr 27 2024, 07:44 AM
Cairo94507   Thanks Chris; yes, Greg is very talented, does bea...   Apr 28 2024, 06:43 AM
Luke M   How did the factory 6 engine mount workout with th...   Apr 30 2024, 08:59 AM
Cairo94507   @Luke M - Hi Luke- We had to modify the factory 6...   May 1 2024, 07:33 AM
ClayPerrine   You may have cleared the pulley, but did you leave...   May 1 2024, 10:56 AM
Cairo94507   Thanks Clay; I will check that out tomorrow. :be...   May 1 2024, 03:56 PM
Cairo94507   OK, we got another day in and are moving along nic...   May 3 2024, 07:17 AM
Cairo94507   For those wondering, here are the dimensions of my...   May 3 2024, 08:06 AM
Root_Werks   I've used the foil trick on 12pt bolts before....   May 3 2024, 09:30 AM
Cairo94507   Going to Greg's tomorrow, Monday, to continue ...   May 5 2024, 02:24 PM
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