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> PMS Throttle Cable, Any Pics?
NARP74
post Mar 21 2024, 02:48 PM
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Does anyone have pics of this part installed on the car, above and below? I am missing most of the 911 style accel cable parts for my 3.2 and want to see if this means not having to buy them. Like the $100 coat hanger, etc.

https://patrickmotorsports.com/collections/...63033&_ss=r
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post Mar 21 2024, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Mar 21 2024, 02:48 PM) *

Does anyone have pics of this part installed on the car, above and below? I am missing most of the 911 style accel cable parts for my 3.2 and want to see if this means not having to buy them. Like the $100 coat hanger, etc.

https://patrickmotorsports.com/products/eng...31da9&_ss=r


I have installed this on my /6 conversion with twin Webers. The core portion of the cable was about 1 1/2" too long and the connection at the rear might need a bit of attention.

I can probably get some pics tomorrow

Either way it looks much easier than the coat hanger/bracket affair.
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post Mar 21 2024, 03:34 PM
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I hope it is easier. I sent PMS a note and asked, they said I still needed all the 911 stuff. I asked for a pic and they said check the PET.
Better, I am checking with the real knowledge base!
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post Mar 21 2024, 05:59 PM
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Is it this one? https://patrickmotorsports.com/collections/...63033&_ss=r
It looks like it just eliminates the bell crank, but still uses the coat hanger. The other link didn't work.
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post Mar 21 2024, 10:06 PM
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Yes. I fixed the original link.
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post Mar 22 2024, 08:01 AM
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@sirandy and A few of my customers use the long cable with no bell crank. If I were to do mine again I would use that cable for sure.
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post Mar 22 2024, 08:06 AM
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@mb911 what parts do I need then? I seem to be getting differing info. Some say I need all the original parts, some say it bypasses them. Still need help.
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post Mar 22 2024, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Mar 22 2024, 06:06 AM) *

@mb911 what parts do I need then? I seem to be getting differing info. Some say I need all the original parts, some say it bypasses them. Still need help.



It bypasses all of it. You need a threaded ball cup on the end to operate the bell crank on the intake manifold and a way to secure the cable sheathing
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post Mar 22 2024, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(mb911 @ Mar 22 2024, 07:01 AM) *

@sirandy and A few of my customers use the long cable with no bell crank. If I were to do mine again I would use that cable for sure.

Correct, i routed the cable in a loop in the back so it comes up through the back opening in the engine tine where the rod from the bell-crank would normally go through. The cable attaches directly to the throttle body on my 3.6L

I don't think i have any good pictures of the setup, let me see what i can find.
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post Mar 22 2024, 09:45 AM
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Best i could find, the cable comes out of the firewall, goes under the engine and loops up through the opening in the engine tin and goes straight to the throttle body.

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post Mar 22 2024, 09:56 AM
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A topside pic would be great if anyone has one.
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post Mar 22 2024, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Mar 22 2024, 08:56 AM) *

A topside pic would be great if anyone has one.

All i got is this crappy pic

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post Mar 22 2024, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Steve @ Mar 21 2024, 05:59 PM) *

Is it this one? https://patrickmotorsports.com/collections/...63033&_ss=r
It looks like it just eliminates the bell crank, but still uses the coat hanger. The other link didn't work.


Coat hanger not required with this cable. I will try to get a topside pic later. I have this cable installed, but shortened the core portion by 1 1/2" to get everything correct
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post Mar 22 2024, 11:34 AM
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post Mar 22 2024, 01:50 PM
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I am getting closer, thanks for the help.
PMS was being lazy or snarky or both.
The 1.5 inches too long is becoming a thing.
Great topside pic. I will need several threaded ball cups and the rod on top.
Now a good pic showing how the underside connection and adjustment are made.
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post Mar 22 2024, 02:51 PM
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My experience with PMS has been they are OK and could use a bit of help with their customer service end of things.

Does the shot from below indicate what you are looking for?
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post Mar 22 2024, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(930cabman @ Mar 22 2024, 02:51 PM) *

My experience with PMS has been they are OK and could use a bit of help with their customer service end of things.

Does the shot from below indicate what you are looking for?

I can't exactly make out how and where the cable attaches under the tins. In the PMS pic, there is a CAD plated part that attaches somewhere and has a threaded adjustment barrel on it. Where does that go?
How did you account for the 1.5 inches too long?
I'll post some pics of what I have as well.

Thanks again
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This is what I am dealing with.
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So the PMS part, a bracket, bolts to the trans just before the cable goes through the tins? Is that where a cable slack adjustment would be done?

Is the PMS cable considered a stock cable, like a 914/6 or 911 cable? Or is it custom. I think it was Brant that mentioned the benefit of using stock parts that could be borrowed in a crunch.
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QUOTE(NARP74 @ Apr 17 2024, 08:08 AM) *

So the PMS part, a bracket, bolts to the trans just before the cable goes through the tins? Is that where a cable slack adjustment would be done?

Is the PMS cable considered a stock cable, like a 914/6 or 911 cable? Or is it custom. I think it was Brant that mentioned the benefit of using stock parts that could be borrowed in a crunch.


Correct, the bracket furnished with the PMS cable attached to the trans bolt and there is a small adjustment available there.

From what I can tell it's a custom product, after shortening the core about 1 1/2" it seems to be working fine. Time will tell
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