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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,926 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Laguna Niguel, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
It looks close... You might have to make your own bracket. With my 3.2, I used a stock 914-6 throttle cable, Rich Johnson's bell crank and coat hanger as they call it. Everything bolted right up with no drama. I used this setup for over 20 years with no issues. The pedal was super smooth. I bought the special 3.6 PMS throttle cable for my current build, but I am keeping the previous setup just in case...
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
The bell crank and coat hanger and other parts I would need are over $600, maybe more now. This was discussed in another thread. Then someone mentioned the PMS cable to eliminate the need for most of the parts below the tins. Going done that route now.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,240 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
The bell crank and coat hanger and other parts I would need are over $600, maybe more now. This was discussed in another thread. Then someone mentioned the PMS cable to eliminate the need for most of the parts below the tins. Going done that route now. I have a couple of the parts necessary for the bell crank assembly, but when I happened on the PMS setup, it was the EZ button for sure and around $150. I still need to speak with them with regards to the core being about 1 1/2" too long. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
The bell crank and coat hanger and other parts I would need are over $600, maybe more now. This was discussed in another thread. Then someone mentioned the PMS cable to eliminate the need for most of the parts below the tins. Going done that route now. I have a couple of the parts necessary for the bell crank assembly, but when I happened on the PMS setup, it was the EZ button for sure and around $150. I still need to speak with them with regards to the core being about 1 1/2" too long. Interested to hear what they say about that. Good luck... |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
@930cabman any update on the too long throttle cable?
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,240 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Just getting back in the loop after complications from a hip replacement, a couple hundred emails to get through, but not too optimistic. PMS has not always come through |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA, Earth Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
Get well soon. Good luck
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Wanting to bring this thread back and see if others can chime in here on the PMS -6 throttle cable, mine also seems to be a tad long maybe an 1" or 1.5". Has anyone had this issue and if so what was the fix??
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,926 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Laguna Niguel, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Different PMS cable but similar issue. When using the 3.6 PMS cable with a 914, the throttle cable is also about 1.5” too long. PMS recommendation was to extend the outer shielding at the firewall with their spacer. I accomplished the same thing with Home Depot crap. Check out my thread. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...69082&st=80
The reason the PMS 3.6 cable is to long in a 914 is because you have to cut the intake pipes and rotate the throttle body to clear the trunk. Not a problem in a 911. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Different PMS cable but similar issue. When using the 3.6 PMS cable with a 914, the throttle cable is also about 1.5” too long. PMS recommendation was to extend the outer shielding at the firewall with their spacer. I accomplished the same thing with Home Depot crap. Check out my thread. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...69082&st=80 The reason the PMS 3.6 cable is to long in a 914 is because you have to cut the intake pipes and rotate the throttle body to clear the trunk. Not a problem in a 911. Do you have a photo itself of what it looks like? Curious to see, but glad I'm to hear there's some options. I have made everything shorter to try and compensate and still too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,926 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Laguna Niguel, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
I gave the above a shot, but something seems funky with the set up, it seems to get caught or has a lot of resistance when pushing the pedal, so much so it bends my pivot arm on the pedal cluster. Removing the brass stuff brings it back to a smooth clean action, but just too long. Back to the drawing board. Theres got to be a better fix than something like this... Weird they sell the cable too long considering the price and I'm sure others have had this issue hence the thread.
Any other suggestions aside from cutting the threaded ends to get the length down? |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,240 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
Wanting to bring this thread back and see if others can chime in here on the PMS -6 throttle cable, mine also seems to be a tad long maybe an 1" or 1.5". Has anyone had this issue and if so what was the fix?? Trying to recall from a year or so ago, remembering making the "repair" at the front portion and crimping the core onto the end. at 72 I can barely remember my name most days not sure why PMS can't get this right |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Wanting to bring this thread back and see if others can chime in here on the PMS -6 throttle cable, mine also seems to be a tad long maybe an 1" or 1.5". Has anyone had this issue and if so what was the fix?? Trying to recall from a year or so ago, remembering making the "repair" at the front portion and crimping the core onto the end. at 72 I can barely remember my name most days not sure why PMS can't get this right If it comes to mind please let me know! |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,457 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region ![]() ![]() |
I'm going to try to link to a previous thread on this....
didn't work....so do a search for "901shop" in the garage post by wndsrfr...it's post #6 in a topic started by Iron Hill Restorations.... I'm using the 901 Shop linkage on my track car--it's crude, direct from the throttle pedal through the firewall between the seats and direct to the crossbar. Brady at 901 shop provided the kit. Note my comment about keeping the original bellcrank and coathanger arrangement--the geometry provides smooth driveability that you lose with direct cable arrangements. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
I'm going to try to link to a previous thread on this.... didn't work....so do a search for "901shop" in the garage post by wndsrfr...it's post #6 in a topic started by Iron Hill Restorations.... I'm using the 901 Shop linkage on my track car--it's crude, direct from the throttle pedal through the firewall between the seats and direct to the crossbar. Brady at 901 shop provided the kit. Note my comment about keeping the original bellcrank and coathanger arrangement--the geometry provides smooth driveability that you lose with direct cable arrangements. Took a look, but that site is no longer working and I cannot find on google |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 5-June 07 From: Pleasant Hill, CA Member No.: 7,784 ![]() |
I also bought the PMS cable and it is too long by approx. 1 1/2 inches. I called them up
and their answer was first that they sell a ton of them and they all work just fine. They told me that I was the only one that had that problem. They then called me back and told me that they would send me shorter ball ends. They ended up being the same ones I already had. Others on this thread have said that they shortened the housing by 1 1/2, but I don't see how that helps. the actual cable is still too long. I still do not have a solution. If someone has made it work, I would love to hear about it. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-January 14 From: Santa Barbara Member No.: 16,941 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
I had shot them an email to tell them my issues with length and got no response myself. Interesting they claim no one has that issue...
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,240 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I also bought the PMS cable and it is too long by approx. 1 1/2 inches. I called them up and their answer was first that they sell a ton of them and they all work just fine. They told me that I was the only one that had that problem. They then called me back and told me that they would send me shorter ball ends. They ended up being the same ones I already had. Others on this thread have said that they shortened the housing by 1 1/2, but I don't see how that helps. the actual cable is still too long. I still do not have a solution. If someone has made it work, I would love to hear about it. going back over a year, I recall shortening the core about 1 1/2" and crimping the end at forward portion of the cable. Housing length worked fine customer service at PMS could use a bit of improvement, I emailed and phoned them regarding this concern. No response |
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