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Clutch Cable Too Long? |
gnomefabtech |
Mar 30 2024, 10:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 27-December 22 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 27,063 Region Association: None |
Just got my car running and in order to get it to shift into gear I needed to tighten the clutch cable all the way to the end of the threads at the clutch arm. This doesn't seem right although it's a Kennedy Eng. pressure plate so I don't know what it should adjust like.
Are there more than one cable length? Is there an adjustment at the pedal I don't know about? I added some spacers under the adjusting nuts just for now. Should there be any free play in the pedal? Right now there doesn't feel like there is any and the car barely goes into reverse. Thanks |
Spoke |
Mar 31 2024, 05:35 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,992 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I believe there is only one length of clutch cable. It is a new cable, correct?
Adding spacers (washers) should be ok. No adjustment at the peddle. |
914Sixer |
Mar 31 2024, 06:05 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,906 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yes, there is only supposed ti be ONE length. However I did a thread awhile back ad found the length varied by manufacturer.
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VaccaRabite |
Mar 31 2024, 07:01 AM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,465 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
1 - is the cable routed correctly?
2 - are the clutch cable tube holder welds still in place inside the tunnel? 3 - do you still have the old cable? Can you measure the old cable against the new one? Zach |
technicalninja |
Mar 31 2024, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,349 Joined: 31-January 23 From: Granbury Texas Member No.: 27,135 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I found this in an old thread that was complaining of "cable too long"
It's supposed to help this issue. https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/REN....ASABEgKVYPD_BwE |
mate914 |
Mar 31 2024, 07:52 AM
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Matt Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 27-February 09 From: Eagles mere, PA Member No.: 10,102 Region Association: North East States |
Just got my car running and in order to get it to shift into gear I needed to tighten the clutch cable all the way to the end of the threads at the clutch arm. This doesn't seem right although it's a Kennedy Eng. pressure plate so I don't know what it should adjust like. Are there more than one cable length? Is there an adjustment at the pedal I don't know about? I added some spacers under the adjusting nuts just for now. Should there be any free play in the pedal? Right now there doesn't feel like there is any and the car barely goes into reverse. Thanks I have am having the same problem. I however have all new parts, flywheel, clutch, pressure plate and cable. I am adding one more washer under ball mount on tranny. Adding spacers has always worked. One large nut up against the clutch fork should help with the cable tension. Matt |
jhynesrockmtn |
Mar 31 2024, 08:38 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 420 Joined: 13-June 16 From: spokane wa Member No.: 20,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Spacer on my 74 with a new clutch and cable. Super slimey in the pics. Engine/trans coming out to figure out where all of the fluids that should not be exiting the trans, are exiting the trans.
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914Toy |
Mar 31 2024, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 12-November 17 From: Laguna beach Member No.: 21,596 Region Association: Southern California |
Long shot possibility, your pressure plate may not be cinched up to the flywheel. I recently replaced a Kennedy (or?) with a stock 914 6 clutch assembly - new flywheel and pressure plate, but they require shorter bolts than the old assembly I was replacing. This resulted in my new pressure plate being about 3/16" away from the flywheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) After replacing with stock length pressure plate bolts, reassembly works perfectly with new stock clutch cable.
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gnomefabtech |
Mar 31 2024, 03:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 27-December 22 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 27,063 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the ideas everyone. I'll add spacers. I'm pretty sure the pressure plate is snug but I'll check that. I don't think the cable tube is rusted out but that's worth checking too.
It does feel like the throwout bearing is in constant contact with the pressure plate and there is no freeplay. Is that normal? |
r_towle |
Mar 31 2024, 04:19 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,591 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
There were (are) two cables out there in the world.
One is too long. |
ClayPerrine |
Mar 31 2024, 04:53 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,523 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
This info came to me from the late Wes Hildreth. Wes worked at the dealer when the 914 was new. He actually showed me the parts referenced here. I found the pictures online.
The original clutch trunion on a 914 was this: It was made of nylon, and had a tendency to tear the ears off due to stress. The extra length is there to make the cable adjustment easier. Porsche superseded it with this: This is what everybody sells for a 914. If you noticed, it doesn't fit the end of the clutch arm correctly, and it doesn't have the extension like the factory one does. The cable manufacturers still build cables based on the original specifications, so we end up with a cable that is too long without a spacer. A better solution is this: This is an aluminum clutch trunion for a 70-71 911. It fits the clutch arm correctly,and doesn't require a spacer that could be lost. The only drawback is it is about 15mm too long. So I buy them and cut them shorter. I would suggest that if you use this, you measure yourself before you cut it down. Hope that helps. Clay |
FlacaProductions |
Mar 31 2024, 05:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,618 Joined: 24-November 17 From: LA Member No.: 21,628 Region Association: Southern California |
Sounds like a job for 914Rubber....
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Steve |
Apr 1 2024, 06:28 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,614 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
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ClayPerrine |
Apr 1 2024, 08:36 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,523 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
I have never used a Tarrett cable. But I have used factory Porsche cables and Gemo cables. The Gemo cable is exactly the same length as the factory Porsche cable. It may even be the same cable in a different package.
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dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Apr 1 2024, 11:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,898 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
all one length, probably the clutch tube has come loose in the tunnel, resulting in too much cable because the tube is moving
Just got my car running and in order to get it to shift into gear I needed to tighten the clutch cable all the way to the end of the threads at the clutch arm. This doesn't seem right although it's a Kennedy Eng. pressure plate so I don't know what it should adjust like. Are there more than one cable length? Is there an adjustment at the pedal I don't know about? I added some spacers under the adjusting nuts just for now. Should there be any free play in the pedal? Right now there doesn't feel like there is any and the car barely goes into reverse. Thanks |
gnomefabtech |
Apr 7 2024, 07:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 27-December 22 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 27,063 Region Association: None |
I think the cable housing is collapsing. I'm ordering a new one and I'll see if that solves it.
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