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> Tie rod refresh, Yoke at the ball joint end hitting steering rack
Chaznaster
post Apr 15 2024, 05:58 PM
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Hi All. This winter, I pulled the entire front end on my car and am almost done putting it back together. Refreshed the rubber parts and eye bolts on the tie rods. I also pulled the steering rack to refresh the coupling and bearing under the gas tank.

I took care to insert the new eye bolts on the rack back to where they were and even double checked the distance between the eye bolts and clocked them per the manual.

Now everything is back together but when I turn either side to the stop, the bolt head on the yoke hits the locking end plate on the rack.

I thought perhaps to flip the yoke so the bolt head would not get in the way but cannot figure out how to get it in from the other side.

Am I missing something??

Thanks.
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post Apr 15 2024, 08:12 PM
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First glance I suspect you may have not added the spacer for the turbo tie-rods

https://sierramadrecollection.com/products/...AyABEgKh5fD_BwE
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post Apr 15 2024, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 15 2024, 10:12 PM) *

First glance I suspect you may have not added the spacer for the turbo tie-rods

https://sierramadrecollection.com/products/...AyABEgKh5fD_BwE

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Sometimes they are sold separately from the kit. Definitely needed on a 914.
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post Apr 16 2024, 06:19 AM
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Eye bolts have to be aligned on rack jig. There is no room for error. That is why everyone goes to turbo tie rods. No worries, just screw them in. Finding a steering jig is hard to find these days,
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post Apr 16 2024, 06:42 PM
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Thanks. This is for the stock setup, not turbo tie rods. I did clock the eye bolts with a homemade jig and felt pretty good about it. 9* if I recall correctly, measured with a digital level on a rod through the eye bolt with the rack on the bench in a vise. Is this the binding issue that I have read about?

EDIT: Maybe just easiest to go with the turbo tie rods and take a loss on the refresh parts for the stock setup ...
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post Apr 17 2024, 05:06 PM
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I am exploring the turbo tie rod avenue. There are lots of manufacturers with a huge range of prices. Dansk, URO, Lemforder, etc. Can someone recommend a good choice for an around town driver? Thanks.
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post Apr 17 2024, 06:27 PM
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Turbo tie rods are nice but there’s no reason why stock tie rods shouldn’t fit your car.
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post May 1 2024, 05:49 PM
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Hi. I am back again on this topic with a new direction. To note for starters, I am trying to stay with the standard setup.

On which side does the bolt come from on the stock inner tie rod? I put mine in from the rear. All the photos I look at has them going in from the front.

If they are supposed to come in from the front, that would solve my bolt head hitting the rack problem. The only trouble is that I cannot get the bolt in that way. No matter where I move the rack there is not enough space to get the bolt started, even if I put it through the yoke before fitting it up.

Is there a trick that I am missing here??

To consider ... Could I have the wrong bolt? Mine is 55cm and is definitely newer than the car, as the zinc finish it still mostly intact.

I appreciate your insights ... Thanks.
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post May 1 2024, 06:11 PM
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Check pet for bolt lengths.
Some hardware on the car will look almost new, even after 50 years.
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post May 1 2024, 06:26 PM
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Thanks. I did look at PET but there is no length. I'd attach the PET page but I cannot seem to upload pics at the moment.

Also looked up the part number at the usual vendors and none that I found listed a length.

Does anyone possibly have one around to measure?
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post May 1 2024, 07:44 PM
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This version of the PET has bolt lengths and thread pitch, at least for most of them.

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/pet/porsche/914/570u/4/
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post May 1 2024, 08:34 PM
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Bolts are here, with new washers
https://914rubber.com/914-steering-coupler-hw-kit
Buy the bolts / washers and pay the shipping both ways I can put this onto the jig to assure they ( the eye bolts) are clocked properly.
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post May 2 2024, 04:29 PM
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Sorry I was not more clear. I am talking about the inner tie rod bolt that attaches the y-shaped end to the rack eyebolt. In both PETs it is simply called Hexagonal Head Bolt.

Edit: it let me attach a pic. My setup above. PET below with the bolt in question being #18.

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