 Teener has sad stance, torsion bar or shock or both toast? |
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| Jacco |
  Sep 3 2005, 12:40 PM
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Designated Dutchman  Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe  |
Hi all!
last week I walked into the garage and noticed the left front side of the car was hanging very low. I drove it quite a lot and hadn't noticed anything really strange in road holding or handling when I parked the car there... I jacked up the car and the wheel lifted at the same rate as I raised the car so the shock didn't push the wheel down... I think this means my shock is toast... but would the torsion bar also be toast... what do you guys think? If I replace the shock does the car need an alignment after that? I guess so but I'm not sure. And is there a way to check if the torsion bar is broken without unbolting the left front side of the suspension and taking the actual bar out? Hoping to find some answers.. thanks in advance Jacco |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 3 2005, 12:51 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Shocks don't really hold the car up, the torsion bars and springs do that. If it dropped a substantial amount, my money's on the torsion bar, the end cap, or the housing. Likely the bar. The Cap'n
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| SpecialK |
Sep 3 2005, 01:16 PM
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aircraft surgeon Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,211 Joined: 15-March 04 From: Pacific, MO Member No.: 1,797  |
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Might also check the tightness of the forward attach bolts. |
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| Jacco |
Sep 3 2005, 02:00 PM
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Designated Dutchman Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe |
tnx guys!
I'll have a look at it sometime soon to check it all out. greets Jacco |
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| Jeroen |
Sep 4 2005, 09:32 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Hey Jacco,
If you wanna check if it's broken, just try the adjuster bolt (making adjustments shouldn't do anything/much) I'll see if I still have some t-bars laying around... |
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| Jacco |
Sep 4 2005, 11:06 AM
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Designated Dutchman Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe |
Hey Jeroen,
tnx, I'll check it when I'm back home at the parents place (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) I should have some torsion bars myself, I have a scrap extra front suspension but I'm not sure if it still has the t-bars. Is there any difference in 914 t-bars in years and models? greets Jacco |
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| Jacco |
Nov 20 2005, 04:28 AM
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Designated Dutchman Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe |
Hey guys
Well it's been a while but the problem has been solved. As you can see on the pics the torsionbar is definately broken. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1132394940.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/blog-1132394965.jpg) The crack started out as a smal rust spot combined with rubbing of the bar on the housing which in part is probably caused by crappy suspension bushings Tnx to the Cap'n for giving the right answer right away. Tnx Jeroen for offering to look for a tbar, we still had one laying around, but maybe next time (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) greets Jacco |
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| SLITS |
Nov 20 2005, 09:08 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Just remember that they are right and left and are marked so on the ends.
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| Bleyseng |
Nov 20 2005, 09:13 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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I hoped you looked! Its stamped on the end R and L. Even in Dutch it means the same |
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| davep |
Nov 20 2005, 11:18 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,143 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
About 15 years ago I was replacing them for customers several times a year. I doesn't look like much remains of the gasket. Once water gets in there and starts causing rust, then the bits of rust serve to grind away the paint on the bar. Then the bar starts to rust and you wind up with a two piece bar. A lot of guys put a grease nipple on the tube and filled the tube with grease to prevent water from getting in.
You were lucky that it happened overnight, as is typical. I have had one go while driving. An interesting experience to be sure. |
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| Toast |
Nov 20 2005, 12:22 PM
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Not bad for carrying sway bars. Group: Members Posts: 3,377 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Las Vegas Member No.: 1,580 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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There is only ONE toast. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Mark Henry |
Nov 20 2005, 12:30 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Had a rear one go in a customers 911...right in front of us in my driveway...quite the bang! At least he was standing right there when it went. rust of course (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Nov 20 2005, 03:46 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Calling Grimstead. Bill may have some extras. I may have some extras as well (if you can't find one locally...)
Edit: Nevermind... just read that you had one. |
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| Jacco |
Nov 20 2005, 04:09 PM
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Designated Dutchman Group: Members Posts: 194 Joined: 23-February 04 From: the Netherlands Member No.: 1,703 Region Association: Europe |
Yup sure did, we extracted one out of the left side of a spare front suspension and double checked for the marking (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) I lightly coated the bar with grease before putting it in. That whasher thingy that is supposed to keep water out was pretty much wasted, I put it back never the less, should've put a new/different one in there... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) Well anyways the car is back on the road again which is always good right before winter starts and they start to put salt on the roads (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) greets Jacco |
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| hannuz |
Nov 20 2005, 04:42 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-June 04 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 2,261 |
Heya Jacco,
Good to read your are back on the road. I know what you went through. Had the same thing a few months back.....just happened to me on the highway (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) This is how mine looked. Cheers, Marc Attached image(s) 
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