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> Shifting to second grinds a little, shifting very slowly is better though
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:03 PM
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I'm thinking I might need to replace my second gear syncro because once my tranny warms up, if I shift to fast (normal speed) I grind into second.

Since I'm going to fix my leaks I thought I'd just replace the syncro if that's what it might be.

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post Sep 19 2005, 02:26 PM
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Adjust the clutch first to see if that helps.
You have to pull the tranny to replace that 2nd gear sychro right.
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post Sep 19 2005, 02:33 PM
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I've done some adjustment but I'll try some more.

I can do this without pulling the tranny according to the various articles.
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post Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM
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Since the tranny has leaks, does it still have fluid? When was it last changed?

Clutch adjustment is a good idea. If you are at a stop and you push in the clutch, wait a few seconds, and then try to shift in reverse, does it grind?
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post Sep 19 2005, 04:06 PM
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Mine does the same crunching.

Speed shifting from third into second is even worse. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)


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post Sep 19 2005, 04:07 PM
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Deal with the fluid first, then complain.....
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post Sep 19 2005, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Sep 19 2005, 01:53 PM)
Since the tranny has leaks, does it still have fluid?  When was it last changed?

Clutch adjustment is a good idea.  If you are at a stop and you push in the clutch, wait a few seconds, and then try to shift in reverse, does it grind?


Nope works fine going into reverse.

The fluid was changed last year, the leak isn't that bad but I'm going to pop the cover off this weekend so I'll find out. I'll check the level first to see if it is low.
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post Sep 19 2005, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE ("Z" @ Sep 19 2005, 02:07 PM)
Deal with the fluid first, then complain.....


OK.
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post Sep 19 2005, 05:18 PM
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I have a better idea: Ease it into 2nd/3rd when shifting and stop trying to drive it like a racecar! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Leaks first... then synchros later
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post Sep 19 2005, 06:08 PM
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I agree with checking adjustment and fluid levels first.

If you do decide to replace the synchro, I'd pull the transmission first. Including the jacking & muffler removal, the tranny can be pulled in less than two hours.

Since you'd have to jack the car up and remove the muffler, anyways, I'd just remove the gearbox. I'd much rather work on the gearbox on a workbench, rather than on my back under the car.

Good luck,
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post Sep 19 2005, 06:15 PM
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Hmm, sounds like I need to adjust my clutch! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)
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post Sep 19 2005, 06:31 PM
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If I may suggest; (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) If you haven't replaced ALL of the shift bushings or know that the po has replaced them recently... - there's nothing that U can adjust will be consistant. 2 much "slop"
Start with new bushings installed using new set screws.
Then adjust your linkage. I like to start adjusting the linkage with the tranny in 2nd.
Try it.
Worked 4 me; (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
Good Luck
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:14 PM
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I just did mine this year.
Take off the exhaust, leave the engine blocked up and just pull the tranny. It's easy and in less than 2 hours you have the whole tranny on the bench. The tranny was light enough that I just "bench pressed" it back into place when I reinstalled it.
Make sure its a large enough and clean bench. Take apart the tranny piece by piece (Haynes manual helps a bit) and change all you seals and gaskets at the same time. Don't try fixing leaks now then take it apart later for the syncros.
Note - depending on how many mile/year you drive, you may get away with just flipping over the old syncro instead of buying new ones. I bought 2 new ones but flipped 3rd one over as the factory manual suggests.
Email me if you want more details. It was a bit un-nerving at first taking it all apart but soon you realize it can only go back together one way.
Ps if you're going to do it yourself you will need a good set of snap ring pliers.
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE (tracks914 @ Sep 19 2005, 06:14 PM)

Ps if you're going to do it yourself you will need a good set of snap ring pliers.

These work VERY well for this job: External snap ring pliers

I broke several "normal sized" ones before getting these, and it's like night and day.
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:22 PM
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Oh, and I agree about pulling the trans vs. pulling the stack in the car, if you have the means. It's hard enough getting the gear stack in and out already, why make it harder when you don't have to? Beware DWD though.. (clutch, CVs, etc.)

If you need trans parts, I have an ad in the classifieds! (end shameless plug) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (Brando @ Sep 19 2005, 03:18 PM)
I have a better idea: Ease it into 2nd/3rd when shifting and stop trying to drive it like a racecar! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Leaks first... then synchros later


I'm not driving like a race car (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

But, that does work. Nice and slow and it's fine. The other gears work with normal shifting. Just push in the clutch and change gears nothing fany but second get upset man.
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (Lawrence @ Sep 19 2005, 04:08 PM)
I agree with checking adjustment and fluid levels first.

If you do decide to replace the synchro, I'd pull the transmission first. Including the jacking & muffler removal, the tranny can be pulled in less than two hours.

Since you'd have to jack the car up and remove the muffler, anyways, I'd just remove the gearbox. I'd much rather work on the gearbox on a workbench, rather than on my back under the car.

Good luck,
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I'll check the fluids, but since I hardly put any miles on the car and the leaks are just seeping I don't think it would be low. But, I'll double check. I'll also check the adjustment but I have spend quite a bit of time on that and still get the darn grind.

Currently, my car is jacked up and has the muffler removed because I'm replacing the exhaust valve cover gaskets so I got to thinking this might be a good time to get into my transmission and screw that up a bit. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:46 PM
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It's not just the level...it's the age and quality of the stuff....Swepco is da bomb....
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (d7n7master @ Sep 19 2005, 04:31 PM)
If I may suggest; (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) If you haven't replaced ALL of the shift bushings or know that the po has replaced them recently... - there's nothing that U can adjust will be consistant. 2 much "slop"
Start with new bushings installed using new set screws.
Then adjust your linkage. I like to start adjusting the linkage with the tranny in 2nd.
Try it.
Worked 4 me; (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif)
Good Luck


I've got all new parts about 4 years ago when I converted the transmission to side shift from tail shift actually I just helped on that.

Won't hurt to go that route though.
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post Sep 19 2005, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE ("Z" @ Sep 19 2005, 05:46 PM)
It's not just the level...it's the age and quality of the stuff....Swepco is da bomb....


Yeare old Swepco is what is in there now.
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