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2.0 /6, Would you consider one? |
Allan |
Sep 20 2005, 01:17 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
And what would this be worth if anything?
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Crazyhippy |
Sep 20 2005, 01:24 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Will 130HP do what you want to do? Or will you get bored w/ the performance and want more in short order?
The car wasn't origianlly a 6, so there's no point (beyond trying to buid a replica) in staying w/ a 2.0 6. I'm from the have more hp than you need school (never heard somone say they wish they had less HP) so the 2.0 six isn't very valuable to me. My half a Nickle (damned inflation (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) ) BJH |
Aaron Cox |
Sep 20 2005, 01:26 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
is it worth the cost of a conversion and upkeep for THAT motor???
130 hp?? thats a hot 2056 TIV with a header..... and no special oil tanks, or engine mounts required... |
jd74914 |
Sep 20 2005, 01:39 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I think you guys are forgetting that everything is based on cost. That said, I don't know how much its worth (I would say probably about 2K running, maybe. We got a 2.2E for 800 not running so I really don't know)
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Crazyhippy |
Sep 20 2005, 01:48 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
To me it's not even a cost based issue. That motor for free is not worth my trouble to install, as 130 HP is not enough for my tastes (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
That is assuming the motor is being installed as is, and not re-built 1st, if it's being re-built ($$$) it gets even worse, because between the purchase and rebuild, you could probably find a later model motor with more power (more displacement too) for the same $$$ If 130 HP is enough, a healthy type IV would be better IMHO, the only thing that would guide ME to that motor is if I HAD to have a -6 and stay on the cheap. BJH |
Mike D. |
Sep 20 2005, 01:53 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
That is the exact motor that I have in my '74. I got it because that is what was available. Can't really say what I paid for it because I got it with a '73 car and all the conversion parts, and misc other parts. PO knew the engine was rebuilt however thought it was a 2.7 because of the green shroud. I did end up having to reseal a head gasket. Down side is the 6 bolt lower valve covers and 7 bolt chain covers. No matter what I do I cannot seem to get one side to stop leaking oil. Although not a lot, but still annoying as it drips right on the header.
I love the engine in the car, the short stroke really revs up and sounds good. However, I have already purchased a 2.7 to rebuild, chasing HP of course. I was going to ask $2000 for mine when I am finished with the 2.7 build...(whenever that may be) -Mike D. |
jd74914 |
Sep 20 2005, 01:57 PM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
I want to also say that I personally love the sound and feel of an early small displacement 6. You can always build one up with higher compression, larger p&c's, etc. The factory got over 160hp without twin plugs with the S, anyone else can do the same. Parts are readily available.
To most people though, a small 6 is a waste of time. I think I'm in the minority. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif) |
Porsche Rescue |
Sep 20 2005, 02:20 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Does the '68 have the aluminum case? If so, that is the preferred case (stronger than the mag. case of '69 and later) for building a race motor. I once had an aluminum case 2.5, built as Bruce Anderson describes in his book, 2.7 p&c's, stock 2.0 66mm crank. It was a great motor. I liked it as well as the 2.7 I now have in my track car. Either is a whole lot more fun than the stock 2.0 six in "Ida". However, even "Ida" is a lot more fun than a 2.0 stock four.
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pete-stevers |
Sep 20 2005, 02:24 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
what is the purpose of the engine a road car, or a vintage race car, if it is a road car why not purchase something of bigger displacement, 2.7s are cheap enough, as long as no rebuild is necessary....if it is a vinatge race car you are going to rebuild any way......but i do like the idea of a hypo small displacement motor,but what is the cost of building it up...... a question might be....why was the motor taken out of the previous car
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ArtechnikA |
Sep 20 2005, 02:49 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
says it came from a parts car. considering the heat exchangers are basically disintegrating where they sit this seems plausible. but you have to be a little careful with someone who thinks the fan shroud casting number is anything like the engine number... there were but two 911's in 1968 - the base model, which was about a T with 110HP and the 911L with a bit more. if they're claiming this was 130HP engine, the Type number should match up with a 911L (901/14, if i am reading the chart correctly. an aluminum case makes for a very nice base but no 2,0 engine came with piston squirters... |
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goose2 |
Sep 20 2005, 05:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I won't enter into the debate over whether it's a good powerplant for a 914 or not...that's purely subjective. However, I can tell you that last spring I sold an early 2.0 aluminum case motor ('68) as a CORE to a collector/restorer for $1300. It had decent compression but was in otherwise unknown condition. This was without the Webers, which can go for 1-1.5K by themselves with manifolds and linkage.
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Joe Bob |
Sep 20 2005, 05:03 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I have a 901/02 block....a real ive "S" motor with 160hp.....fun, I also have a 2.2....with like what...130ish, then a 3,6....290+....I appreciate each one for it's idiosyncracies.....
The 2.0 for it's buzzy and peaky, 2.2....less buzzy with more torque, the 3.6...OMYGOD...... |
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