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> 914 V8, 351 to Porsche tranny
Teknon
post Sep 26 2005, 09:39 AM
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Is there an adapter to go from a Ford 351C to a Porsche transmission?? I have searched around some and can't seem to find one. All are for a Chevy so far.

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post Sep 26 2005, 09:52 AM
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That might be because the Ford block MAY be too long to fit. Call Kennedy and they will tell you the whole scoop.
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post Sep 26 2005, 09:52 AM
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You've been looking in the wrong place (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Kennedy Engineering Products

These guys make the adapters and flywheels for just about anything.

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post Sep 26 2005, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Sep 26 2005, 08:52 AM)
That might be because the Ford block MAY be too long to fit.  Call Kennedy and they will tell you the whole scoop.

will people Please stop that non-sense that the Ford block is too long !!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Looking at the KEP site, they don't list the Cleveland block, but I'd still call them and ask.

I think a Windsor block would be better since it's lighter
(I do like the 351C motors, had a Mach 1 with one in it years ago, the one car I kick myself for selling)

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Brian,

a place called Pryo Minerals in Oakland has pretty much everything needed for castings.....I'll be going up there this week to start buying stuff
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post Sep 26 2005, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Sep 26 2005, 09:52 AM)
You've been looking in the wrong place (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Kennedy Engineering Products

These guys make the adapters and flywheels for just about anything.

I sent an Email to Kennedy asking for info on 351C to Porsche.

My hope is, down the road I could pick up a Pantera in need of an engine. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Sep 26 2005, 11:01 AM
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There are wyas to get the trans bolted to the motor, but it will not fit into a 914 w/o cutting into the firewall for distributor clearance.

Good luck w/ it
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Sep 26 2005, 01:01 PM)
...it will not fit into a 914 w/o cutting into the firewall for distributor clearance.

if that's really the only problem, why not just sh!tcan the dizzy and run crankfire ?
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Sep 26 2005, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Sep 26 2005, 01:01 PM)
...it will not fit into a 914 w/o cutting into the firewall for distributor clearance.

if that's really the only problem, why not just sh!tcan the dizzy and run crankfire ?

Exellent idea!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

There has got to be someone who has done this. Some old Mustang motorhead, that was won over to the superhandling midi-car, the beloved 914. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

Trying to see if the Pantera zf Tranny could be squeezed in. That would be BAD.

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post Sep 26 2005, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Teknon @ Sep 26 2005, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Sep 26 2005, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Sep 26 2005, 01:01 PM)
...it will not fit into a 914 w/o cutting into the firewall for distributor clearance.

if that's really the only problem, why not just sh!tcan the dizzy and run crankfire ?

Exellent idea!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

There has got to be someone who has done this. Some old Mustang motorhead, that was won over to the superhandling midi-car, the beloved 914. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

Trying to see if the Pantera zf Tranny could be squeezed in. That would be BAD.

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pantera trans has been done before....


BTW - bend over on price of ZF transaxle (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:25 PM
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There has got to be someone who has done this.


yea...the factory (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

the very popular do-it-yourself EDIS crankfire came from Ford production vehicles
(see this site for some info...Megasquirt EFI site )

there are 2 ZF equipped 914's running around here in the SF Bay Area....

like Aaron mentioned, bring cash, lot's of it for a ZF...
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Sep 26 2005, 01:16 PM)
QUOTE (Teknon @ Sep 26 2005, 12:14 PM)
QUOTE (ArtechnikA @ Sep 26 2005, 01:00 PM)
QUOTE (Crazyhippy @ Sep 26 2005, 01:01 PM)
...it will not fit into a 914 w/o cutting into the firewall for distributor clearance.

if that's really the only problem, why not just sh!tcan the dizzy and run crankfire ?

Exellent idea!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

There has got to be someone who has done this. Some old Mustang motorhead, that was won over to the superhandling midi-car, the beloved 914. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

Trying to see if the Pantera zf Tranny could be squeezed in. That would be BAD.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)

pantera trans has been done before....


BTW - bend over on price of ZF transaxle (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

$850.00 bucks? No bending required. ZF Tranny
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that isnt a transAXLE... thats a transmission...
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Teknon @ Sep 26 2005, 12:34 PM)




$850.00 bucks? No bending required.

ummmm, you must be new to cars I take it??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

explain how that transmission will take place of a transaxle??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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this is a pantera ZF
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with outputshafts for U joints on it....
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Sep 26 2005, 01:36 PM)
that isnt a transAXLE... thats a transmission...
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OOOOOOppss. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)
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here is such an ad
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I have a ZF type 2 transaxle and bellhousing from a very low miles Pantera. Crated and ready to ship. Price - 6,500


6500....
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:41 PM
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A ZF might actually be cheaper in the long run. Current tally on my 930:

$3k trans
$2k machining to flip the ring
$2.2k shipping, sliders, new synchros, gaskets, etc

It adds up fast. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

In the end you'll have a better trans with the 930 though, higher tourque capability etc. A ZF is the way to go if you plan on keeping it under 450hp though. Also consider the Mendeola.
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post Sep 26 2005, 01:42 PM
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correct ZF for sale, $6500

damn...beat by aAron

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QUOTE (Mueller @ Sep 26 2005, 12:42 PM)
correct ZF for sale, $6500

damn...beat by aAron

a minute late there mikey (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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OK, But it's only 5 times the price. Yow (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/icon8.gif)

Transaxle

Man, I want one! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/chowtime.gif)

Might have to hustle a swimming pool to build. If I was a hustler.
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