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> What's the scoop on cylinder heads?, like, where can i get some good ones?
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post Aug 6 2003, 12:51 PM
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A bit of an update on my engine rebuild plans: my mechanic is now planning just a straight top end rebuild that will consist of (duh) new pistons, cylinders & heads.

I can get the pistons & cylinders from GPR, no problem there. But where do I go for a decent set of remanufactured heads?
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post Aug 6 2003, 12:59 PM
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pry the wallet open and get some mittlemotor heads and tell us what its like. look for some 2.0 heads for better flow.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:02 PM
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What's wrong with your old heads? Can't a place like RIMCO rebuild them for you?

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post Aug 6 2003, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE(Alfred @ Aug 6 2003, 11:02 AM)
What's wrong with your old heads? Can't a place like RIMCO rebuild them for you?

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I'm sure they could, but I'm not going to have the time to dismantle the engine and send the parts out to be done.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(tryan @ Aug 6 2003, 10:59 AM)
pry the wallet open and get some mittlemotor heads and tell us what its like. look for some 2.0 heads for better flow.

Where can I get info about these mittlemotor heads? A google search yields less than nada.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:33 PM
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Searching for heads for a 2.0 is going to be fun. I seem to recall that you have a later year 914 as well. You might want to try Rich Bontempi at HPH. 1 877 914-4YOU

BTW, please shop around before ordering the P&Cs. They shouldn't run you more than $440 for Euros and $450 for USA-spec shipping included.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:34 PM
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Is the car your daily-driver?

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post Aug 6 2003, 01:35 PM
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I have a set of 2L heads, bare and blasted. No cracks or repairs. $360 + shipping.

If you are interested, LMK.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(korijo @ Aug 6 2003, 11:35 AM)
I have a set of 2L heads, bare and blasted. No cracks or repairs. $360 + shipping.

If you are interested, LMK.

I'm definitely interested! Is there any reason they won't work for an injected '76 2.0?
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Alfred @ Aug 6 2003, 11:34 AM)
Is the car your daily-driver?

Alfred

Not only is the car my daily driver, but I have limited access to this "cost-free" mechanic. He's only in town for a short period of time, and the bastard wants to spend time working on his own Porsche project (a 912 that we bought for $500 and resurrected from the dead - before we got divorced). I can't believe he's being so selfish! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

It's not the best way to go about things, I know, but it's saving me the sixty bucks an hour my regular mechanic charges so I'm willing to do what I need to do to make it happen this way.

And if the heads are ok, I can always clean 'em up and sell 'em to help offset the cost of replacements.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(Paul Heery @ Aug 6 2003, 11:33 AM)
Searching for heads for a 2.0 is going to be fun. I seem to recall that you have a later year 914 as well. You might want to try Rich Bontempi at HPH. 1 877 914-4YOU

BTW, please shop around before ordering the P&Cs. They shouldn't run you more than $440 for Euros and $450 for USA-spec shipping included.

Thanks for the tip, Paul. The car is a '76 - they don't get much later than that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I will shop around for pistons & cylinders. I like dealing with GPR because they're right here in town, but if I can save a hundred bucks even with shipping thrown in then it's worth it to me to go elsewhere.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:51 PM
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i are a misspelr. mittelmotor. yah


i am not in a smog state. when do the 75's become exempt? will you need air pump heads? 1.8's.
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post Aug 6 2003, 01:56 PM
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http://www.mittelmotor.de/english/startenglish.htm but their web site is not secure so if you order, order by fax.

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post Aug 6 2003, 02:01 PM
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I will shop around for pistons & cylinders.  I like dealing with GPR because they're right here in town, but if I can save a hundred bucks even with shipping thrown in then it's worth it to me to go elsewhere.

They list for $445 on Pelican's site http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca...n_pg1.htm#item1 .

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post Aug 6 2003, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(tryan @ Aug 6 2003, 11:51 AM)
i are a misspelr. mittelmotor. yah


i am not in a smog state. when do the 75's become exempt? will you need air pump heads? 1.8's.

I'll forgive you...this time.

Damn. That's the stuff to drool over, isn't it?

I only have to smog it one more time, next April. After that I'm home free.
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post Aug 6 2003, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Alfred @ Aug 6 2003, 12:01 PM)

They list for $445 on Pelican's site http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/shopca...n_pg1.htm#item1 .

Alfred

What is the difference between the Euro spec and the USA spec pistons & cylinders?
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post Aug 6 2003, 02:09 PM
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look at the photo of the disscusion board on the home page. the crackers and the pickle barrel are missing.


8.0 vs 8.5 compression ratio? about 7-10 hp?
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post Aug 6 2003, 02:11 PM
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German Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) of piston sets for the 914-4. For the 2.0L engine, these OEM piston sets are available in two types, USA and European. The European pistons have a higher compression ratio resulting in about a 6% increase in horsepower. For more info on the differences between the USA and European Pistons, see our Q&A section. All piston sets come complete with rings, wrist pins, and clips.


Get the Euros, they're made by the same manufacturer (Mahle), are less expensive and you'll gain a bit of power.

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post Aug 6 2003, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Queenie @ Aug 6 2003, 11:37 AM)
I'm definitely interested! Is there any reason they won't work for an injected '76 2.0?

Mine are from 73/74. They do NOT have the smog ports.

Can they be smogged?? I don't know... Anyone chime in w/ answers ??
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post Aug 6 2003, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(Alfred @ Aug 6 2003, 12:11 PM)


Get the Euros, they're made by the same manufacturer (Mahle), are less expensive and you'll gain a bit of power.


Ok then! Euro pistons and cylinders it is.

I really want to do this job right. I love my car and I want it to be happy.

I wanted to deal with all this stuff right after I bought it, when I had time and money to burn, but noooooooo - three mechanics told me to just keep the oil topped off and keep driving it until I absolutely HAD to pull the engine. Feh.
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