 Odor de 914, Can it be toned down |
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| Rough_Rider |
 Oct 12 2005, 01:07 PM
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Smurf Zone  Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547  |
Wife won't come near the 14, nor near the garage. Not necessarily a bad thing. Basically the fuel smell in garage can get seriously overpowering.
With Fall setting in the NorthWest i can't just leave the door cracked open. House gets too cold. So my question is how do i prevent the gas tank from venting Or vent the garage. Car setup with triple weber 40's & a 8 gallon fuel cell with open to atmosphere vent. Thinking a one way vent valve in tank might help? |
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| TROJANMAN |
Oct 12 2005, 01:10 PM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
is the smell as bad just sitting there as just after a drive?
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| bondo |
Oct 12 2005, 01:18 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Sounds like something is wrong. The tank should have a charcoal cannister between the gas and your nose. Either something is wrong with that system, or you have a leak somewhere.
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| ArtechnikA |
Oct 12 2005, 01:22 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
if the car is not operated the tank should probably be emptied to prevent stale fuel (bad...) or at least - treated with StaBil. (reminds me - i have to drain the 911's tank after i run compression and leakdown tests this weekend ...)
it should be pretty easy to cap the tank vent. i'd think the biggest problem is the float bowls. if you're using the factory air cleaner housing, stick a tennis ball or something in the snorkel. or rubber-band a plastic bag over the opening. if you're using "open" air filter assemblies, it could help to cover them with something - plastic trash bags, perhaps. |
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| bondo |
Oct 12 2005, 01:28 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Heh, I should read posts more carefully. PHLBT! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) You can always add a charcoal cannister. (a lighter one from a more modern car would probably be a better choice in your case) |
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| Rough_Rider |
Oct 12 2005, 01:28 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
No charcoal cannister, car is stripped & race preped. Fuel cell has a open vent valve with hose venting under car, foam in hose prevents debris entering line. But doesn't prevent vapours escaping.
Smell just seems to permiate the garage overnight. Driving her is fine, smelly for sure but fine. My current thinking is to pick up a rollover 1 way checkvalve. Any other racers / fuel cell users have this problem?? |
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| jsteele22 |
Oct 12 2005, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO Member No.: 4,653 |
Also check the fuel hoses from the gas tank to the hard plastic lines that enter the tunnel. These are out of sight, and can be neglected for decades. When old a and cracked (besides being hazardous, they can weep a tiny amount of gas -- just enough to smell up a closed garage, say.
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| SLITS |
Oct 12 2005, 03:31 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
If it's a race car with an 8 gallon fuel cell, he prolly replaces all the lines with SS braid.
Solution....keep the garage real cold so the fuel does not volatize to the atmosphere so readily..........or extend the vent line to outside the garage and thrill your neighbors with the smell of exotic racing fuel (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Oct 12 2005, 03:33 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
And yet ANOTHER "feature" of a carb conversion. Hang on, folks, they're pourin' out today! The Cap'n
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| TINCAN914 |
Oct 12 2005, 03:34 PM
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Summer's Commin... Group: Members Posts: 2,440 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO. Member No.: 4,611 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Mine is on stands. My 4 year old went out there the other night, and typically the garage is clean. The smell of gas, oil and brake cleaner filled the air. He walks out and said it smells good out here Dad.... oooooohhhhhhh yes... That's my boy!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Oct 12 2005, 03:40 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
In da mornin', In da evenin' Ain't we gots fun.................... Nothing like the smell of burnt oil colliding with Corral #5 |
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| jsteele22 |
Oct 12 2005, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 24-August 05 From: Colorado Springs, CO Member No.: 4,653 |
Oops, I missed that. Here's an idsea that may please the wife : the solution |
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| BMartin914 |
Oct 12 2005, 10:54 PM
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I've got the same smell in my interior. I also don't have a carbon canister of any sort on my car, just a bare tank and no vent lines whatsoever.
Dumb question #1: Would the addition of one most likely cure this smell? Dumb question #2: Is the carbon canister the oval-shaped canister that is often times mounted to the firewall, or the plastic "tank" that surrounds the filler cap? I have neither so have no point of reference. |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 12 2005, 11:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,681 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
charcoal canister for the gastank vent and a set of balls for the carbs ...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy Attached image(s) 
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| Hammy |
Oct 12 2005, 11:09 PM
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mr. Wonderful Group: Members Posts: 1,826 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Columbia, California Member No.: 2,978 Region Association: Northern California |
Andy... tis that the now deceased "bad boy" ? oh and stupid question. Whadda the carb balls do (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Oct 12 2005, 11:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,681 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
yupp, that's "Bad Boy" ... RIP ... what, your car doesn't have balls? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) j/k they close off your carbs so they do get any dirt in them. as you can see, those babies didn't come with air-filters. it's a racer thing. first thing i did was adding airfilters to my engine. didn't help much ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) Andy |
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| Katmanken |
Oct 13 2005, 07:45 AM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Those aren't balls,
Those are oranges with piercings and chains... Ken |
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| SGB |
Oct 13 2005, 09:27 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
I've got the same setup as Ahndy, but with tall filters on 'em. Iff'n this is a pretty good source of gas vapors (makes sense), I think I'll use a couple of plastic shower caps (from hotels) over each side to see of this effects the gas smell in my garage. I also took off the charcoal canister (it is the one- mine is metal- that is around the gas cap), because it was essentially empty. Sounded like a couple ofr rusty particles in there and nothing else. I saw it as dead weight and removed it. If it could be refilled with activated charcoal.....
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| bondo |
Oct 13 2005, 09:30 AM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
That's the expansion tank and it's supposed to be empty. The charcoal cannister sits on top of the tank on the drivers side. |
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| phantom914 |
Oct 13 2005, 10:05 AM
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non-914-owner non-club member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,013 Joined: 24-February 04 From: Covina,CA(North ofWest Covina) Member No.: 1,708 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif) It does? I thought they were in the engine compartment, mounted on the rear bulkhead. Andrew |
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