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Joel Simmons
post Oct 13 2005, 09:27 PM
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Hello everyone,

Well, I know I'm pretty rare around here, I pop up every now and then with another 914 candidate. And, I have another one I'm looking at.

Its a 1970 1.7L car that still has its fuel injection system. The owner has had the car since 1980 and he seems to have taken fairly good care of it. Only recently has it sat in his garage unused. He says the injectors have fuel in them and they probably need to be replaced. I don't speak Porsche injection lingo...so...what exactly does that mean?

There's not a whole lot of rust either. The battery pan IS rusty but not to the point that its going to fall apart. There's a bit of bubbling around the driver's side near the windshield/front hood area. I do have photos that he sent me via email, but I'm not exactly sure how to post them.

He's asking $2400 for the car. I'd be using this as a commuter...I need something reliable...or at least able to be made reliable fairly soon after I purchase it. I'm guessing there is a list of things to do as soon as a person purchases a 914 in order to make them ready for the road (if not already). Does this car sound like a decent candidate for a solid daily driver?

Thanks for any and all replies!

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post Oct 13 2005, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (Joel Simmons @ Oct 13 2005, 08:27 PM)
I do have photos that he sent me via email, but I'm not exactly sure how to post them.

just read the FAQ, it has detailed instruction on how to use this board, including how to post pictures ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

some pictures would really help with the assessment of the car ...
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:40 PM
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for every inch of rust that you CAN see, expect about about 3-4 inches of rust that you CAN'T see.

also, if you're looking for a daily driver, i would highly recommend that you purchase a 914 that is currently being driven -- not something that has been sitting.

decent drivers can still be had for $4k+ in Cali.

good luck, and post pictures of the cars you're interested in so we can nit pick them apart!
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:46 PM
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Joel: Member number 148,,, damn... And still no consumation..... I've bought 8 914's sence you've become a member. My driver has twin 40 Solex's singels on it. I don't like the injection for the streets. My A/X car has D-Jet on it (only for class ruels). Sorry to confuse you but, the injections systems are for the injection geeks and concourse winnies... If you want to use your car daily put on something like the factory did (2 Solex single 40's).
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:58 PM
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Wow, quick replies around here. Yeah...I've been slow to get a 914. I actually had a 1967 Bug at the time I became interested in 914's, then sold the Bug to help pay for my wedding (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) Then...I joined the Army and I've been fairly busy since...so...I have little time to run around all over the place when a nice car comes up for sale. I have to stick with what I find around here (here now being Monterey county, CA so hopefully that should help out).

Okay, going to try and post two pics, both of the worst rust areas (I've seen so far). I had to crop them down as they were too large as they were sent to me.



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post Oct 13 2005, 09:59 PM
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Right in front of the driver's side front window/hood area:



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post Oct 13 2005, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Oct 13 2005, 08:46 PM)
If you want to use your car daily put on something like the factory did (2 Solex single 40's).

don't listen to this guy, he had a few to many teekillyas ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)


the stock fuel injection is the best setup for a daily driver, IMHO.
smooth running and no cold start hassle. better gas-mileage too ...

if you haven't already done so, locate a shop local to you that has experience with these cars.
someone who can do a tuneup of the stock fuel injection for you ...
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:02 PM
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Here's the link to the advertisement on craigslist.com here in the Bay Area.

1970 914 1.7L

I agree with everything you guys have said so far. I would much rather buy a car that has not been sitting and I would much rather have carbs than fuel injection. But, some people seem to put a lot of faith in Porsche's first attempts at injection systems...so I dunno.

I should be getting some more photos soon, I'll keep you guys posted.

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post Oct 13 2005, 10:03 PM
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That was only on the Euro 1.8l cars with the dual solex's as they cheapen out for the euro market!
Here in the US they gave us the Delux FI system..

I would suspect that a car sitting for awhile will need lots of TLC to make a DD out of it. Fuel lines, brakes lines, injector cleaning etc will have to be done.
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:03 PM
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Andy,

This car is actually located in Alameda, not too far from you. Ever seen it on the road or know anyone that may have made the trip to look at the car?

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post Oct 13 2005, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (Joel Simmons @ Oct 13 2005, 08:58 PM)
Okay, going to try and post two pics, both of the worst rust areas (I've seen so far).  I had to crop them down as they were too large as they were sent to me.

both areas should be cleaned and treated with rust-preventive coating before you start driving the car.
especially in monterey county, as the salt air from the ocean will only help accelerating the existing rust.

you should also get a new, sealed battery, like the optima red-top. those can't leak acid anymore, like older batteries, which is what caused the battery tray to rust so badly.

you'll have to take the battery out and clean up the lose rust really well, than coat it all with something like "Metal Ready" (http://www.por15.com/) ...
same goes for the front cowl area ...

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post Oct 13 2005, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (Joel Simmons @ Oct 13 2005, 09:03 PM)
This car is actually located in Alameda, not too far from you. Ever seen it on the road or know anyone that may have made the trip to look at the car?

can't really tell from the pic but if you set up a time with the seller, i'd willing to drive by and have a closer look at it ...

as for carbs, not a single 914/4 ever came to the US with carbs installed from the factory, they all had FI ...
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:32 PM
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Yo Andy: Just 2, like twins, you know how much we like twins. A good pair has always been my favroit. Something around 40's always worked for me. Even Linda thinks so. The car will be at Laguna Seca.
Andy, what do you want in the cooler?
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Oct 13 2005, 09:32 PM)
Andy, what do you want in the cooler?

well, unfortunately, i'm the guy who has to keep the peace and an eye on you guys, so i was thinking along the lines of Mr. Jack and Mrs. Daniels ...

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post Oct 13 2005, 10:47 PM
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Got you covered Sir.
Excuse me, Mr. Andy, but will you need any mix or will water or ice be fine?
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:59 PM
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doood, IMHO, for a stockish daily driver, you definitely want the stock FI -- not carbs.

anyway, i'm a little concerned about that piece of wood in the back trunk, and who knows what else it would take to get it running and reliable.

find a runner. pay up front, buy the nicest car you can afford. you will be ahead in the end.
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post Oct 13 2005, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Oct 13 2005, 09:47 PM)
Excuse me, Mr. Andy, but will you need any mix or will water or ice be fine?

rumor has it that coca and cola commingles well with the two ...
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post Oct 13 2005, 11:10 PM
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Mixes better than Injection and carbs..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Joel Simmons @ Oct 13 2005, 09:02 PM)
Here's the link to the advertisement on craigslist.com here in the Bay Area.

1970 914 1.7L

I agree with everything you guys have said so far. I would much rather buy a car that has not been sitting and I would much rather have carbs than fuel injection. But, some people seem to put a lot of faith in Porsche's first attempts at injection systems...so I dunno.

I should be getting some more photos soon, I'll keep you guys posted.

Joel

I've seen the car and have met the owner a few years back (before her trip), for some reason I thought she was asking close to 5K last time it was for sale, Brad Roberts and myself told her we both thought it was too much.

For that price it might be a good car, but I'd look over very carefully to be sure.
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post Oct 15 2005, 03:03 PM
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Hi Mueller,

Thanks for that reply and info. I think I'll pass on this car.

I'll be at the ALMS races at Laguna Seca today if anyone has a clean 914 for sale...

thanks again,
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