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> Heat guns and removing sound tar, I the only one to burn myself?
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post Oct 17 2005, 12:24 AM
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Ok, Stripped the passenger side front floor and drivers side rear floor...

Burned my leg and thumb... give me some moral support and tell me I'm not the only one to have gone through this an burn myself with a heat gun?

Also, is there an easier way?

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post Oct 17 2005, 12:33 AM
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Easier way? FIRE.

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I use a heat gun to bend bindings, for instruments. I get a lil overheated sometimes.. you should be glad you never bend wood, on an iron..

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post Oct 17 2005, 01:25 AM
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I don't know if there's an easier way.. I remember that experience. I think I burned myself as well, but not blister type burns. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) Plus my car was in the garage while I did it, so I didn't have much room to open the doors all the way. I was so sore....
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post Oct 17 2005, 01:31 AM
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Don't worry your not the only one that gets burnt from a heat gun.

Now how did you burn your leg. Good thing you didn't burn your hootus. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 17 2005, 08:06 AM
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get a butane torch... makes the job 10x faster... and smellier


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post Oct 17 2005, 08:30 AM
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I used an air chisel and it took about 10 minutes to do both sides - piece of cake and no smell or fire. Be careful with the angle you use - you don't want to dif into the pans. Then I used a shop vac to pick up the pieces.

Worked for me - obviously the stuff was very brittle - are they all like that?
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post Oct 17 2005, 08:44 AM
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I used a heat gun, and got no burns at all.
Of course, my garage is fairly big, and I had taken the doors off. I was also wearing gloves. It's the little things, you know? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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post Oct 17 2005, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (redshift @ Oct 16 2005, 10:33 PM)
Easier way? FIRE.

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I use a heat gun to bend bindings, for instruments. I get a lil overheated sometimes.. you should be glad you never bend wood, on an iron..

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Me too! I definitely agree about the wood bending on the irons.

And yes, I got myself a few times removing the tar with a heat gun, it just added to the already high frustration
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post Oct 17 2005, 09:28 AM
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Oh yeah, sticky tar..
Seems like some folks have it easy, while other (me included) found the whole process quite tedious & time consuming.

Tried heatgun, butane & other heat methods with scrapers. Reverted back to heatgun as easiest to control.

Best advice is heat up large areas & try to scrape it off in chunks. Watch out for the hot tar, sticks to fingers.

Anyone tried dry ice??
BTW, whats that nasty yellow stuff around seams, hasd to use a wire brush to remove??
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post Oct 17 2005, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE (Rough_Rider @ Oct 17 2005, 08:28 AM)
BTW, whats that nasty yellow stuff around seams, hasd to use a wire brush to remove??

that would be seam sealer ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

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Best advice is heat up large areas & try to scrape it off in chunks. Watch out for the hot tar, sticks to fingers.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) the trick is to warm up large patches and then scrape the tar off in big chunks. you don't want to get the tar too mushy/liquid, just warm enough to come off the metal.

works great once you get the hang of it ...
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post Oct 17 2005, 09:34 AM
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I use liquid Nitrogen to freeze the stuff then bang it off...

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post Oct 17 2005, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE (olav @ Oct 17 2005, 08:34 AM)
I use liquid Nitrogen to freeze the stuff then bang it off...

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you work in a sperm bank??? where does one get liquid Nitrogen?
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post Oct 17 2005, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 17 2005, 07:50 AM)
QUOTE (olav @ Oct 17 2005, 08:34 AM)
I use liquid Nitrogen to freeze the stuff then bang it off...

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you work in a sperm bank??? where does one get liquid Nitrogen?


you can buy it from chemical supply companies as long as you have a Dewar to store it in it lasts quite a while.

I did my graduate studies in Physics and used a lot of it so that's why I'm familiar with the stuff...

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post Oct 17 2005, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 17 2005, 10:50 AM)
QUOTE (olav @ Oct 17 2005, 08:34 AM)
I use liquid Nitrogen to freeze the stuff then bang it off...

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you work in a sperm bank??? where does one get liquid Nitrogen?

wart remover, or -460(?) from fry's...

TX in the summer the butane torch was the shit... bubble up big squares of it and then scape off...

dry ice or nitrogen may work good too though...
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post Oct 17 2005, 12:41 PM
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Don't use heat, too messy.

LN2 (liquid Nitrogen) works great, but is hard to come by for most folks. Best thing is a big load of dry ice, and a rubber mallet. Pile on the dry ice and freeze the material good and hard, then thwack it with the rubber mallet. It should shatter pretty easilly, and then you can either use a shop vac or a whisk and dust pan... Presto! No smelly mess...

It may take a little longer, but it's a lot cleaner.

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post Oct 17 2005, 01:42 PM
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Use a blowdryer (heat gun basically)

and get a big area generally hot with the hottest setting, then go back over, a couple inches in front of where your scraping, and put it on the middle or low heat setting....

Slowly scrape... and try for long sprints....

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post Oct 17 2005, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (jhadler @ Oct 17 2005, 10:41 AM)
Don't use heat, too messy.

LN2 (liquid Nitrogen) works great, but is hard to come by for most folks. Best thing is a big load of dry ice, and a rubber mallet. Pile on the dry ice and freeze the material good and hard, then thwack it with the rubber mallet. It should shatter pretty easilly, and then you can either use a shop vac or a whisk and dust pan... Presto! No smelly mess...

It may take a little longer, but it's a lot cleaner.

-Josh2


Just have to wipe up the melted dry ice...

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post Oct 17 2005, 04:48 PM
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the easier way is to have a BBQ and let aaron and mattR come by and do it while you hold smoked meat on a string.

Seriously, i think the time of year has alot to do with it. i did it on a car this summer and it was much harder to get up. now that it's cooler i'm doing my other car and it seems to come up alot easier. i used the heat gun on both occasions.
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post Oct 17 2005, 07:16 PM
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Two words for you buddy, leather gloves.

I would think the dry ice would be pretty slick though, be sure to wear eye protection, or you'll shoot your eye out kid
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post Oct 17 2005, 10:06 PM
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I bought a cheap heat gun fom Kragen and it worked great! no burns but I was careful
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