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Rear window removal, how to? |
goose2 |
Oct 17 2005, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
anybody got a good method of removing a rear window?
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Crazyhippy |
Oct 17 2005, 02:27 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
BFH, goggles, and gloves (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Never removed one that wasn't already broken... BJH |
DBCooper |
Oct 17 2005, 02:35 PM
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14's in the 13's with ATTITUDE Group: Members Posts: 3,079 Joined: 25-August 04 From: Dazed and Confused Member No.: 2,618 Region Association: Northern California |
O.K., maybe a better question is how you replace a rear window....
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double-a |
Oct 17 2005, 02:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 987 Joined: 15-September 03 From: vancouver, wa, usa Member No.: 1,162 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
took me quite awhile. i used a stiff putty knife: jam it in there, twist, separate window from seal, repeat. eventually you can get enough of the seal broken to pop it out. it helps to have one of those glass suction thingies too, i got one for like $3 at flaps.
there may be other methods as well, i tried several. actually, the thing that's most frustrating is removing and reinstalling the targa bar pad. took me an hour just to get that thing off. next time i have to do it, i'm using velcro to reattach. ~a |
Rough_Rider |
Oct 17 2005, 04:29 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
Trickiest part is removing all the trim around the window. Taking seat out makes job a little easier. I had backpad taken out but suspect that not totally necessary. Otherwise targa bar trim side trim comes out. Ohh also take top off.
To soften the old butyl use a hair dryer or hot air gun. then gently pry out the glass. Moderate force on the exterior while holding interior from moving to much. Don't bash it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Clean it all up with acetone & scrapers. BTW there are two small rubber blocks that hold the glass off the frame at bottom, try to keep em. |
Dave_Darling |
Oct 17 2005, 04:54 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Razor knife on the "goo" that holds the window to the frame.
Taking the back-pad out is pretty much necessary. I don't think you'll be able to get the glass out of the car (in one piece) with the back-pad in place. The other trim around the window may or may not be necessary, but I think it would be very difficult to get the glass positioned correctly without removing that. I used a couple of bar clamps to hold the top of the window in place overnight while the goo set up, and a couple of rolled-up towels between the seat backs and the window to hold the bottom in place. --DD |
Eric Taylor |
Oct 17 2005, 05:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Newport, OR/Eugene Oregon- UO Member No.: 770 |
Randy if you want some help with it, I've done it before and would be happy to come by and help out. I need to come say hi anyway. PM Me
Eric |
Crazyhippy |
Oct 17 2005, 05:23 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Paint thinner on the blade of the razor makes it alot easier to cut through all the tar crap holding the window in, just be sure to re-dip the blade often, or it gets sticky and it's done for.
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StratPlayer |
Oct 17 2005, 05:26 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Eric Shea posted a great thread on the rear window removal and replacing.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=...f=5&t=15821&hl= |
Brando |
Oct 17 2005, 05:32 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
And instead of installing another butyl rubber strip... go with the silicon stuff in a tube. Goes much quicker that way too (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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MikeP |
Oct 17 2005, 05:44 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: 13-June 05 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 4,268 |
I once covered one in duct tape and hit it with a 5lb sledge. Much to my amazment it did not break but came out in 1 piece after 2 good whacks. Those things are strong.
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guywan914 |
Oct 17 2005, 05:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 221 Joined: 27-May 04 From: Columbia,CT Member No.: 2,112 |
I used a heat gun to loosen the butyl then proceeded with the putty knife and it pretty much popped right out in one big piece. then proceeded to use the heat gun to get rid of all the remnants of cement on both targa and glass
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goose2 |
Oct 17 2005, 06:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Wow....lots of good advice. I'll get that sucker out of there, no problem. Heat gun, razor knife, putty knife, guitar string, acetone, thinner, duct tape and a big sledge hammer (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
If all else fails, I'll just cut the car away around it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) (it's a parts car)......Thanks to all |
qa1142 |
Oct 17 2005, 06:34 PM
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Whiplash Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: 1-June 04 From: Lake Zurich, Illinois Member No.: 2,140 |
or just give it time, when it comes loose you can just take it out (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)
Once I figured out what was rattling it was easy project. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) Pull back pad and side pads. I used Buttal tape to put back in, why question German engineering? |
jet1 |
Oct 17 2005, 07:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 16-June 04 From: Accord,NY Member No.: 2,213 Region Association: North East States |
Mine fell out when I took the back pad out.
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aircooledboy |
Oct 18 2005, 12:15 PM
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Sweet Pea's 1st ride in daddy's "vroom -vroom" Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Rockford, IL Member No.: 1,629 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER use a silicone based product to install autoglass unless you don't care about the metal it is attached to. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (Sorry bud) Silicone not only doesn't hold very long, it attracts moisture and traps it against the body. I can't tell you how many windshield and backglass jobs I did in my autoglass days that required a trip to the body shop before I could re-install the glass. When you scrape the silcone off the metal, it looks exactly like it has had battery acid and water sitting on it. Butyl is the best choice for a vertical mount. Butyl has no "setting time" required by the way. It is as bonded after 2 seconds as it will ever be. |
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goose2 |
Oct 23 2005, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 30-March 05 From: Eugene, Oregon Member No.: 3,847 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Well.....the window came out after two of us spent about 2 hours with knives, solvents, heat gun, levers, sticks and other implements of destruction to get the damn thing undone from the SILICONE that some bonehead installed it with. I'll repeat the previous advice emphatically....DON'T USE SILICONE TO PUT IN A WINDOW....for various reasons.
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Eric Taylor |
Oct 23 2005, 05:22 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 1-June 03 From: Newport, OR/Eugene Oregon- UO Member No.: 770 |
Good to hear that thing came out (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) . That looked like it was going to be a real bitch. No kidding about NEVER using silicone (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif).
Eric |
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