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charliew
post Sep 10 2009, 12:52 AM
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I have a 96tt outback 5mt and a 02 wrx tranny and the flanges fit both tranys.
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:32 AM
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I have a 96tt outback 5mt and a 02 wrx tranny and the flanges fit both tranys.


then definitely 25-spline. it's just those couple years of EJ FWD 5MTs that got the 23-splines. But I just thought I'd mention it, for anyone looking for a FWD 5MT. avoid the '93-'94 imprezas!
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post Sep 10 2009, 11:17 AM
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thanks for sharing - a 93/94 fwd trans was exactly what i was planning on.

i do not think suabaru made fwd trans after 1993 - so we will be limited to converting an awd trans - that's fine.

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I have a 96tt outback 5mt and a 02 wrx tranny and the flanges fit both tranys.


then definitely 25-spline. it's just those couple years of EJ FWD 5MTs that got the 23-splines. But I just thought I'd mention it, for anyone looking for a FWD 5MT. avoid the '93-'94 imprezas!
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:04 PM
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yea they did, all the way into '96.

only those 2 years of imprezas are different. '95-'96 impreza FWD 5MTs are 25 spline, as are '90-'96 legacies.


I've got a '92 legacy FWD 5MT that I plan to use should this project ever get off the ground...

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Numbchux

thanks for sharing - a 93/94 fwd trans was exactly what i was planning on.

i do not think suabaru made fwd trans after 1993 - so we will be limited to converting an awd trans - that's fine.

jim

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I have a 96tt outback 5mt and a 02 wrx tranny and the flanges fit both tranys.


then definitely 25-spline. it's just those couple years of EJ FWD 5MTs that got the 23-splines. But I just thought I'd mention it, for anyone looking for a FWD 5MT. avoid the '93-'94 imprezas!
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post Sep 10 2009, 02:09 PM
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thanks for sharing - a 93/94 fwd trans was exactly what i was planning on.

i do not think suabaru made fwd trans after 1993 - so we will be limited to converting an awd trans - that's fine.

jim


Jim, No. You will not be limited to an AWD trans. 92-94 legacy FWD transmissions Are available for very cheap and i also have one for sale as well as a pair of flanges that i dont need anymore. 150.00 for the 94' LEG FWD 5mt and 400.00 for the magic flanges (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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thanks for the transaxle clarification. jim
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post Sep 12 2009, 08:54 AM
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I would like to play with a fwd tranny to compare the innards to the 5mt awd stuff I have but the dang shipping is the problem for me. I won a fwd tranny on ebay but the seller (a cali. yard) decided it was a awd tranny and renigged on the deal. It was only a 100.00. But the shipping was also 100.00. I would like to see if the 05 legacy innards and the obx will fit.

Really once you see the bremar conversion you see how to weld the center diff parts up and the plate is pretty easy to make.

The fwd tranny case is shorter in the rear though and might look better from the rear under the car.
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post Sep 13 2009, 04:49 PM
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I would like to play with a fwd tranny to compare the innards to the 5mt awd stuff I have but the dang shipping is the problem for me. I won a fwd tranny on ebay but the seller (a cali. yard) decided it was a awd tranny and renigged on the deal. It was only a 100.00. But the shipping was also 100.00. I would like to see if the 05 legacy innards and the obx will fit.

Really once you see the bremar conversion you see how to weld the center diff parts up and the plate is pretty easy to make.

The fwd tranny case is shorter in the rear though and might look better from the rear under the car.


The obx lsd will fit but the output shaft will not. Theres a place called Andrewtech that works on these transaxles and is one of the best suby trans specialists around. He can answer these questions for you.
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post Sep 17 2009, 10:45 PM
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I hang out on nasioc some and there is lots of info there including andrewtech. The output shaft will fit if the rear fwd case is modified for the extra length.
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post Sep 18 2009, 05:06 PM
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I hang out on nasioc some and there is lots of info there including andrewtech. The output shaft will fit if the rear fwd case is modified for the extra length.


Nasioc is one of my favorite suby sites. Whats the point of modifiying the FWD case to fit the AWD outputshaft? Why not just use the outputshaft of an AWD in an AWD case where its meant to be? I would just use the FWD transaxle with an obx lsd diff. I kind of like the taller gears.
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post Sep 23 2009, 02:20 PM
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What's happening! Haven't been on this forum in a couple years and thought I would stop by. Glad to see the progress made on the flanges. I had some PM's that I never answered. Never knew I had them and they are quite old now. I still have my 914 with subie engine and transmission. The flanges I put together are still holding strong and working great. I did blow a head gasket so I haven't been driving it lately. The cable shifter has been a pain. It's sloppy and at one point broke a cable. I am either going to do a rod shifter or maybe try an automatic. Anyways, great work guys.
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QUOTE(charliew @ Sep 17 2009, 08:45 PM) *

I hang out on nasioc some and there is lots of info there including andrewtech. The output shaft will fit if the rear fwd case is modified for the extra length.


Nasioc is one of my favorite suby sites. Whats the point of modifiying the FWD case to fit the AWD outputshaft? Why not just use the outputshaft of an AWD in an AWD case where its meant to be? I would just use the FWD transaxle with an obx lsd diff. I kind of like the taller gears.


If you use the awd output and mill the fwd rear case you can do away with the awd centerdif case and the bremar blockoff plate which will make a shorter transmission. Steve already posted some pictures of both under the car. Also I want to use the 05 leg parts including the shafts. The 05 leg case I have is busted up and unuseable.
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What's happening! Haven't been on this forum in a couple years and thought I would stop by. Glad to see the progress made on the flanges. I had some PM's that I never answered. Never knew I had them and they are quite old now. I still have my 914 with subie engine and transmission. The flanges I put together are still holding strong and working great. I did blow a head gasket so I haven't been driving it lately. The cable shifter has been a pain. It's sloppy and at one point broke a cable. I am either going to do a rod shifter or maybe try an automatic. Anyways, great work guys.


Talk to bob Bigkat he fabed up a cable shifter that shifts "just like a brand new subaru" He says, using junkyard parts.
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post Dec 6 2009, 06:27 PM
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Does anyone have a pair of subaru/vw adapter flanges available?

Thanks,
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QUOTE(nsyr @ Sep 23 2009, 12:20 PM) *

What's happening! Haven't been on this forum in a couple years and thought I would stop by. Glad to see the progress made on the flanges. I had some PM's that I never answered. Never knew I had them and they are quite old now. I still have my 914 with subie engine and transmission. The flanges I put together are still holding strong and working great. I did blow a head gasket so I haven't been driving it lately. The cable shifter has been a pain. It's sloppy and at one point broke a cable. I am either going to do a rod shifter or maybe try an automatic. Anyways, great work guys.


Talk to bob Bigkat he fabed up a cable shifter that shifts "just like a brand new subaru" He says, using junkyard parts.
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post Dec 7 2009, 12:06 AM
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atsealevel914 had a pair for sale. Try him first.
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Thanks Steve... I sent him a PM.

And if atsealevel914 should see this thread 1st, please PM me about your flanges.
Thanks!
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atsealevel914 had a pair for sale. Try him first.
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Thanks Steve... I sent him a PM.

And if atsealevel914 should see this thread 1st, please PM me about your flanges.
Thanks!
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atsealevel914 had a pair for sale. Try him first.
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Kevin, ive decided not to sell them. Thanks.
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It Works.


That's great! I too am using an early (AW11) MR2 shifter on my Suby trans. Can you provide details on your cables (length, manufacturer, diameter)?

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