 Replacing front wheel bearings, and suspension bushings...Need tips. |
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| Trekkor |
 Nov 3 2005, 06:31 PM
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I do things...  Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California  |
How many hours should I allow for this project?
Are there any tips to help or prevent alignment loss? Thanks. KT |
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| Aaron Cox |
Nov 3 2005, 06:34 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
wheel bearings. CAKE 20 min a side tops. (getting new rotors? 4lug? or do you have mueller hubs???)
bushings. I just did lagunero's weltmeister Aarm bushings. Spiral groove each with a dremel, and make a resevoir at each end (just a line running complete around the ID) BUY the crazy gorilla Jizz ™ bushing lube they reccomend and go to town. AA |
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| djm914-6 |
Nov 3 2005, 06:37 PM
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Happiness is: Getting on the road Group: Members Posts: 1,864 Joined: 6-February 03 From: Burlington MA Member No.: 248 Region Association: None |
Bruce (BCinSC) and I did one front bearing on his 1.7L in 2.5 hours. Neither of us have much experience working on cars. But hey, one rear bearing on my car took a week, so I'm getting better and collecting more tools.
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| Trekkor |
Nov 3 2005, 06:42 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Also, I'm doing the rear bushings.
I'll be deleting the brake dust shields. Stock rotors going back on. KT |
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| Aaron Cox |
Nov 3 2005, 06:45 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
going with what bushings?
welts? Elephant poly bronze mueller? foley graphite ones |
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| Trekkor |
Nov 3 2005, 06:49 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Weltus...
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| Aaron Cox |
Nov 3 2005, 06:52 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
im content with them. they have 2 part numbers and youll figure out wich are front a arms and which are rear of the a arms. Mine had relatively small stiction to them.... and move quite freely. When i did lagunero's.. they are pretty sticky and take some force to get the a arm to move in a direction. I hope they loosen up. they are a noticeable difference in handling.....but the hot shit is muellers bearings.....no Stiction compared to a rubber/poly/graphite/polybronze bushing.... the choice is yours. |
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| J P Stein |
Nov 3 2005, 06:55 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
IMO....flame away...Meuller or Elephant if you want to hold alignment...and not have striction. Anything else is a waste of time & money.....but them plastic fuckers are cheep...and..You'll have the fun of doing it again in a couple years.
Not that I have strong opinions about this........ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) |
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| eeyore |
Nov 3 2005, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
With all the dis/assembly, I'd put it at 2 hours per corner, plus some more if you have fitting issues.
Its easiest if you drop the entire front subassembly. Give up hope you'll maintain alignment after you see just how much the bushing rubber flows from one side to the other. And don't forget to bring the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blowtorch.gif) |
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| Dr. Roger |
Nov 3 2005, 07:07 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
if ya' need assistance on the fronts, i'm in Hercules and can help do the front bearings and races in about half and hour. U do the dirty work, of course.... FYI, I like Peets coffee. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) the offer is out there.... Cheers, Roger |
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| Trekkor |
Nov 3 2005, 07:11 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
These are the ones that Rich at HPH recommends.
I trust his judgement. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) KT |
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| brant |
Nov 3 2005, 07:12 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,620 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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The plastic ones don't loosen up or wear in unfortunately.
their life cycle is: medium sticktion, more sticktion, stuck... I still put them into my street car, because the price is hard to beat! put zerks on all 4 corners. I have 2 zerks on each corner. propper fit, zerks, and frequent lubing make a difference. back when I didn't have zerks it was a once a year requirement to take all the suspension off and "Rebuild" each corner.... now with zerks I have only had to do that once..... and on the street car I have never had to do it! brant |
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| Trekkor |
Nov 3 2005, 07:27 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I like the zerk idea...a lot.
thanks. KT |
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| McMark |
Nov 3 2005, 07:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif)
Zirc fittings are mas gut. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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| brant |
Nov 3 2005, 07:30 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,620 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Also, with the zerks Idea...
obviously I'm not pumping gorilla stuff through a grease gun. I've found mobil one red grease to be just fine. The zerks Idea gives up on the super-slippery therory and resorts to good ole american volume! make sure you channel the inside (not outside) of the bushing and drill a hole where the zerk goes so that the grease can get to the I.D. on mine, I found zerks that extended part way into the plastic bushing so as to anchor it and make sure the bushing didn't turn on the O.D. and the hole I created to facilitate this. brant |
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| Trekkor |
Nov 3 2005, 07:39 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Brant, do you have any pics of this fantastic mod?
Sounds very good. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) KT |
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| r_towle |
Nov 3 2005, 08:33 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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I would say that if you are taking off the original rubber bushings....plan to spend 3-4hrs per corner...
You gotta burn off the rubber, then clean clean clean until you have a smooth shaft to put the plastic bushing on. DO THE ZERK FITTINGS!!! The article is on pelicans web site. Good luck. DWD (do the ball joints, bearings, tie rods while your there) Rich |
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| McMark |
Nov 3 2005, 08:47 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) A nice clean surface is a must. The harder it is to put in the bushings, the harder it will be to move your suspension.
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| Aaron Cox |
Nov 3 2005, 08:49 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
it took me 20 min a corner to get old bushings out. no torch required (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) just good ole muscle and channel lock pliers.
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| Britain Smith |
Nov 3 2005, 11:09 PM
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Nano Member Group: Members Posts: 2,354 Joined: 27-February 03 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 364 |
To me, if you going to go through the trouble...do it right the first time and just install a set of the rollerbearings.
I know of two people who have over 20 years of racing experience that claim they dropped 1-2 secs off there track time just by installing the front rollerbearings. Just the idea of zerk fittings makes me (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/barf.gif) -Britain |
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