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shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
we, my dad (flatvw) and i, are taking the engine out of the '72 1.7
this will be our first time doing this so we dont fully know how to do it all we have the check list and instructions, but some experienced help would be greatly appreciated well be doing it tomorrow morning i think wed like to take it out fix the oil filter assembly and put it right back in well have donuts and coffee in the morning and... my dad has offered to make a bunch of smoked meat/bbq (which always turns out well, my favorite is the pulled pork) or to buy a large pan of lasagna. he said hell also provide BEER (ID required (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)) if any one could come john has said about 10 am. we live at about 32nd st and shea if you would like to help us out PM me and ill give you the address and directions thanks to slits for sending us those parts we found them last night in the mail box, oil filter woes any help would be greatly appreciated! -shaggy |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,349 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
can't come to phoenix so I just pulled mine ,,,good luck...
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Sir Post-a-lot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 ![]() |
shaggy, i've done it before...went well, and got a pat on the back from the porsche mechanic.
if you need help gimme a call 502 741 0183. b |
shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
thanks britt
but an experienced hand to tell me what im looking at would really help theres really nothing like having first hand help |
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Member: Team NARP ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,515 Joined: 23-March 04 From: Arizona Member No.: 1,844 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Make it in the afternoon, and I'll be there. Got a conflict in the morning. Do you need my motorcycle jack? Start working on getting the CV bolts out now. If they are stripped, it will take forever. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Make sure you get the correct 12 point tool for removing them.
John has my numbers, call. |
shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
well its in the after noon then
i have something to do already tonight so ill be up at 7 or so tomorrow and ill work those cv bolts out the mc jack would really help what 12 point are you talking about? is it like a torque? where can i buy one? |
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Sir Post-a-lot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 ![]() |
oh no! triple-point driver. FLAPS has them.... its like a torx bit with some more ends in them..... b |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
"triple point driver"?
thats what its called? is there only one size? or do i need a specific one? |
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Sir Post-a-lot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 ![]() |
7mm i think....
somebody back me up here...... my triple-point bolts were replaced with allen head bolts. b |
shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
sorry i couldnt have given you guys more notice on this but we need the car to be running.
and that was only decided today. i havnt driven a 914 fo about 2 weeks or so i miss my clutch... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) im having 914 withdrawl... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) |
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914 Historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,260 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada ![]() ![]() |
Check the bolt heads as soon as you can. If they are originals, the use a 'triple square' 8mm bit. That is, they have 12 points. It is commonly used on a VW as well. You will need new CV joint gaskets. Use a couple of grocery bags on each CV to keep them clean. I'd power wash the CV's before splitting them. It is critical to keep dirt out.
Remove the battery, then disconnect the electrical connections. Mark them as you go. Disconnect the fuel lines, and make sure the ends don't leak. Disconnect the heater cables, clutch cable, speedo cable and throttle cable. Be sure the tranny ground strap is disconnected, and the reverse light switch. I'm sure you will have to remove the exhaust unless you remove the drive shafts completely. I'd guess the exhaust would be easier. You'll need new hardware for the exhaust, plus new gaskets. Unhook the rubber from around the engine tin edges. Loosen the engine bar bolts and the tranny mount bolts. Support the engine with a trolley jack right at the back of the engine, and in front of the tranny (there is a rectangular machined spot to aim for). Get some big pieces of tin or cardboard and slide it down between the engine tin and the nuts on the end of the inboard suspension arm shafts. This will guide the engine tin down past the nuts and keep things from hanging up there. Remove the engine bar bolts and remove the nuts on the tranny bolts. I sit with the trolley between my legs, and lower the trolley little by little while guiding the assembly down. Use the ears on the tranny to guide things. A bit like bull wrestling. Once the engine is sitting down on the trolley, pull it out. You need about three people: one to supervise, one to supply beer on demand, and one to do all the work. |
shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
hahahahahahahahahahaha!
well have four people so we should be fine! thanks for all the help! |
shaggy |
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
they arent triple points but rather 6mm hexes
im gonna go get a bit tonight and try tomorrow morning good thing you told me to look right away or i would bought that for no reason but it would have helped with dropping the engine on the '75 thanks for all the help engine drop in t-17 hours thanks again -shag |
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914 Historian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,260 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada ![]() ![]() |
You should replace the washers under the CV bolts. They are a special type. New bolts will not hurt either. I've seen too much damage from loose drive shafts beating everything within reach. Cheap insurance.
You may be able to drop the engine quickly, and even get it reinstalled tomorrow. Be sure to get the new bits to finish it up right though. A rush job and used parts will ensure another job in short order, and could cause significant damage. A job like this requires either advance planning to get all the necessary parts in before you start, or a very well stocked garage. |
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Sir Post-a-lot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 ![]() |
the washers are crush wavey washers.
b |
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I do things... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
schnorr washers
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We do not have either...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dead horse.gif) |
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Teenerless Weenie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
The CV washers look like this
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mechanic/welder/fabricator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None ![]() |
how many washers do i need per side?
would bap have these things? what do the cv gaskets look like and do you think bap would have those? |
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how may do i need? one per bolt. ill let you figure out how many bolts are on each CV. go to pelican parts . com and click on CV gasket. im sure they have a picture. hell, google canbe your friend too (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) what is a BAP? if a local place. then no. id bet they wont have anything 914 |
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