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| 5dogs |
 Nov 6 2005, 05:26 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Eureka, CA Member No.: 2,784  |
I just spent an hour digging around the problem rust areas on my 73. The only thing I found was a few pin holes on the rear floor underneath, on both sides. I pulled the battery and dug down in the Hell Hole. It all looks good. Rockers, fire wall, are solid. Sooo, my question is this; How much sag is normal, if any?? I noticed my windows hang up slightly on the rubbers seal when car is on the ground but when I jack up the car using the jack points, the windows don't drag. Do I have a problem or do I need to adjust the windows someow?? If I do have a problem, will the Stiffening Kit help?? (Engman, I think!) Thanks again.
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| grasshopper |
Nov 6 2005, 05:41 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
how are your door gaps?? are they consistent from the bottom to top?? if its really close on the top, it could be serious, and there could be serious rust somewhere, or... the door's could just need to be adjusted (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| jet1 |
Nov 6 2005, 06:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 311 Joined: 16-June 04 From: Accord,NY Member No.: 2,213 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) the best way to tell if you have a problem is to
look at the door gap. The windows may just be out of line. Have you removed the rocker panels? The jack points and the longs are where you should look next for rust. If you do have a problem the stiffening kits are not a quick fix. you should fix the rust areas first, then add a stiffening kit if you still need it. |
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| 5dogs |
Nov 6 2005, 07:40 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Eureka, CA Member No.: 2,784 |
The gaps actually look really good. I have taken off the rockers and have not found any more problems besides the stuff mentioned earlier. So, is there some flex in these bodies even if there is NO rust?? Just curious!
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| seanery |
Nov 6 2005, 08:06 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
are you noticing this with the top on or top off?
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| 914werke |
Nov 6 2005, 08:09 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,084 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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Yes (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) the car is thirty plus yrs old ! But Put the top on and try the big butt test (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) |
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| grasshopper |
Nov 6 2005, 08:11 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
yes, there is SOME flex in these cars, just because the frame of the car is built in, and there is no chassis |
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| 5dogs |
Nov 6 2005, 09:13 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Eureka, CA Member No.: 2,784 |
I did this with the top on. My top could use some adjusting also. So what is the Big Butt Test? I have heard of it but how do I do it??
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| grasshopper |
Nov 6 2005, 09:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
get the fattest person you can find, and get him to sit in your car, then try to close your doors (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| 5dogs |
Nov 6 2005, 10:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Eureka, CA Member No.: 2,784 |
Ok! Thanks for the info. I am 200lbs and my buddy, 225lbs. We sat in both sides and the doors close the same way as if no one was in it, top on. I guess I am ok. Now, someone mentioned adjusting the doors. How is that accomplished? And the window adjustment too? Thanks everyone for responding!
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| spare time toys |
Nov 6 2005, 10:17 PM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Open the door and lift on the back edge. Much play?? Check the hinge pin (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| URY914 |
Nov 7 2005, 07:20 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,737 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Take the top off and measure from the left corner of the windshield to the right edge of the targa bar and do the same from left to right.
Now do the measurement again with your fat, sorry I mean, husky friends in the car. Record the differance and chart it on graph paper. Do this 10 times and with 10 different cars. Turn this in to your kid's Science teacher and staple a $20 bill to it and you may get a A. I have NO idea what the acceptable amount of tolerance this sicenific proceedure is, but you could compare it to a rust free car if there is such a thing. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Paul (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) |
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| Engman |
Nov 7 2005, 07:34 AM
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Zoisite Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,349 Joined: 25-March 03 From: New Albany, IN Member No.: 475  |
Actually, the Dave Darling big butt test is done witht he top off. Open passenger side door, get in and see how it closes.
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| SGB |
Nov 7 2005, 11:00 AM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
My car is solid too, but it flexes a little.... When I lift the entire side of the car at the jacking doughnut, the door gap on whichever side I am lifting expands maybe 1/16 in. I haven't been worried about it, or surprised either.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) hope I don't end up surprised though. I don't expect so, actually. |
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| Root_Werks |
Nov 7 2005, 12:29 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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Take the top off, get in, close both doors and "bounce" lightly up and down on the long while holding a finger on the door gap. If you can feel your door gap open and close with each hop or jump, your 914 has been attacked by the rust monster. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
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