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oil cooler line sizes, what AN sizes for fittings |
DanT |
Nov 10 2005, 10:11 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Will be installing an oil cooler up front when the car comes back from paint.
With the plan of doing a six conversion in a year or so, what size cooler, lines and fittings would you all suggest. I am not as concerned with the cooling for the 4...but want to make sure I have plenty of cooling capacity once I do the conversion. Car is used for AX, DE and TT We run in the summer at Th and BW where it can be 105+ in the shade. What suggestions do you have? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sawzall-smiley.gif) |
Aaron Cox |
Nov 10 2005, 10:12 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
do a search. common knowledge is -8 for a 4, im running -10 with a huge pump....and am told thats the biggest you can go for a 4.
-12 is the minimum you can run for a 6 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
0396 |
Nov 10 2005, 10:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
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Trekkor |
Nov 10 2005, 11:11 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Oil cooler -BIG
lines -12 -16 from the oil tank to the motor. KT |
DanT |
Nov 10 2005, 11:14 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Trekkor,
Could you post (repost?) pics of your various lines and connections? Tank to motor etc. What make and size cooler did you use? thanks (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) |
Trekkor |
Nov 10 2005, 11:15 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I think you should be (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Nathan will tell you his experience about cutting all his sessions in half due to 250°+ temp at T-Hill with no cooler. I got close to overheating too and had to baby the car to stay out. KT |
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DanT |
Nov 10 2005, 11:19 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I was referring to the fact that I want the cooler set up to be optimal for a 6. Yes, I want the 4 to be cooled, but that is not my primary goal. Even if it appears to be overcooled at the present.
Even if I were not planning on a 6 conversion I would be putting on a good size cooler, I know after having other 4s and a 6 that the cooling is very important. I mean that for the 4 it may appear to be overkill and that is OK. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
Trekkor |
Nov 10 2005, 11:20 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Certainly!
Setrab approx 23wx2dx5t (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) Earl's line and fitting mocal t-stat Tank is a thick walled large capacty Vellios in the stock location KT Attached image(s) |
Trekkor |
Nov 10 2005, 11:26 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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DanT |
Nov 10 2005, 11:34 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Yeah, If I could just light a fire under the !@#$ painter. He is doing the job on the side and has promised it to me by Thanksgiving...I'll be surprised if I have it back by Christmas!
O well, at least the paint and body work will be done. That still gives me plenty of time for assembly. I have over a week off for Christmas break...so if I have the car by then I will be able to get it done. I have almost all of my parts ready for installation. The cooler is one of my last acquisitions. Thanks |
RON S. |
Nov 11 2005, 11:20 AM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
For a 6cylinder
-12 minimum, -16 optimum Ron |
greglepore |
Nov 11 2005, 11:28 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 24-March 05 From: S/E Pa Member No.: 3,808 |
Another quick question-what adaptor do I need to go from the stock line to an-16?
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RON S. |
Nov 11 2005, 02:12 PM
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9140430841, FINALLY RUNNING Group: Members Posts: 1,212 Joined: 22-May 03 From: WALTERBORO,S.C. Member No.: 724 Region Association: South East States |
I didn't use an adaptor. I went to my local rubber & gasket company,and merely bought a 3 or 4 dollar steel -16 union. I sawed it in half at work,bored it a little bit on a lathe to slip over the pipe,and tig welded it on. Instant line (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Ron Attached image(s) |
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GeorgeRud |
Nov 11 2005, 02:53 PM
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I cool my 2.7 conversion using a turbotrol cooler up front with a Mocal thermostat mounted back by the engine. I used -12 lines because they were cheaper and easier to run. They run under the rocker panel on the passenger side. I also welded a fitting onto the hard Porsche line to make the conversion, though a fitting is available to go from the metric to AN.
The engine stays cool enough (210 degrees) on hot summer days running at high speed. I was chided by our local race shop (Perfect Power) that -16 would have been better. For a street car, -12 should work. For a race car, only -16. My $0.02. |
McMark |
Nov 11 2005, 03:00 PM
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I think that makes sense. But engine size/tune makes a difference as well. |
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Trekkor |
Nov 11 2005, 04:08 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Yep, same here. Once I installed the cooler I have yet to get any hotter than that. This is after 20 min track sessions. Not just street driving. Went on a 2 hour backroad excursion and kept it below 190°. -16 from the tank to the motor is good. Nice little 3 foot run. Running -12 line will not result in starvation on my SIX. 9.5 qts in the tank with 2-3 more in the lines and cooler. KT |
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