914-6 Tub Options

[Speedster07]

What is the TUB difference between a 914-4 and a 914-6, not a GT just a 6, or are they the same makers, ie...Karman or ???
Craig

[JoeSharp]

Thomas and I were talking about that yesterday. Aside from the engine mounting point.
We came up with the mounting for the hand throttle, the four holes for the windshield washer pump, his has a hole in the trunk for the T-4 air supply that had a white plastic plug in it. Just like the ones in the rear trunk. The jack is mounted in the left rear corrner of the rear trunk and is of the VW T-1 kind.
What else?
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

[Speedster07]

Yea I no about the Hand throttle and the engine mount turn sigs, gauges, and wiper motor, but what’s that about 4 holes for the wiper pump? What about the TUB's, are made at the same place and time then split, to the right goes 6's and to the left goes 4's, next.
What about the body molding between the fender and the cowl, someone once told me that one was welded and no molding the other has that black plastic molding between, and what about the hand break?

Where is Brad or Mueller when you need them? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

[Eric_Shea]

Same MFG.

The 6's were sent to Porsche for finishing.

The beading between the fender was on all production 914's and 914-6's. The only one I've seen without is the #4 prototype pics and various user cars that have been modified.

[Eric_Shea]

Lefty ignition dash panel and different column... but you're probably back on TUB's again so... that's about all I have.

[SLITS]

Engine shelf slightly different....hole in driver's side for oil line from tank...don't know about pass side 'cause it is missing (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

No mount for heater blower (later cars)



different dash....duh!

[JoeSharp]

Not much is it.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

[SLITS]

If yer talkin' about the hole, it's in a curved piece that I don't remember seeing on a /4....Would have to take an image and it's dark and I wanna go home...

[echocanyons]

No four cyl motor mounts

[Cap'n Krusty]

The tub's the same. The mounting holes are there for the hand throttle, there WAS no heater blower mount in the cars during the years the 6 was in production, the hole for the wiper motor harness is there in the 4s, the holes for the oil tank are simply punched in the existing bosses of the tub, the motor mount is welded in the 6s, the 4 mounting points are there, IIRC, on the left and right, just not used. The dash insert is different, but it's not a part of the tub. The Cap'n

[GeorgeRud]

There are pictures of the workers pushing the tubs across the street to the Porsche assembly line (on carts that seem to use the four little round supports on the edges of the floorpan). These tubs are really quite the same.

If Porsche was only making money on these 914-6's, they may have made a whole lot more of them.

[Eric_Shea]

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the 4 mounting points are there, IIRC

Nada

[T H O M A S]

these are the holes for the windshieldwasher pump

[McMark]

Four cylinder mounts aren't in sixes and there are only three holes for the washer pump. All early cars had the jack on the drivers side rear.

[Speedster07]

If you guys are still watching (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) How hard is it for someone to transfer all of the 6 stuff over to a 4, rebadge it weld in the engine mount and any of the other metal parts, change dash, steering column all of the stuff from 6. I don't like it, But I know of such a car, the 6 was beyond repair and a Cali rust free tub was available and so the swap took place and was rebadged "because it all came from a 6" and has all doc's window sticker manuals everything,
he only told me because he said the new owner should know, plus if you knew 6's you would know.
The doner was a 73, so better doors, retractable seat belts, I'm not sure what else you get with a 73 that 69-72 didn't have. Besides the seats.

What value difference would there be? Besides YOU KNOW. I think just knowing it could
ruin it for me, I don't know, I'm not a purest, but it somehow just doesn't seem right.
What do you think, am I making too much out of it? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/assimilate.gif)

Craig (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
Stuck in Indyanoplace

[VegasRacer]

QUOTE (Speedster07 @ Nov 15 2005, 05:56 PM)

What is the TUB difference between a 914-4 and a 914-6

About $5000. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

[michel richard]

On the /6 there's a bracket to hold the oil feed line between the bottom of the oil tank and the ol cooler. It is definitely part of the tub, and not there on the /4.

[914Sixer]

For what it is worth, I have had 2 real 6's. I am now in the process of building a clone from real six parts. I am starting with a 73 tub. I feel that I can build a lot better car with the parts that I have than the original 6 came from the factory. I think a lot of people have taken this approach.

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[JoeSharp]

Actulay, I think we should make up a BLACK LIST and post all of the numbers of the -6s chassies we know to have been distroyed.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

[sixerdon]

As an owner of two stock sixes with zero mods, I can tell you that there were so many changes made to the tubs from the time production began until the last six in '72 that no book or article has yet to catalog them. This doesn't include the 916. Different animal. My 70's are #0137 and #0876 made two months apart and there are differences between them. Just one example, the tabs that hold down the floor mats are not on #137 but are on #876. It was not uncommon to stop the production line and offer an upgraded design at the factory. There are other differences, but I won't go into that now.
For those looking to swap out parts from a rusted or busted six and upgrade to a newer chassis, it is still not a "real" six. To me, the '72 chassis is the best conversion tub. It's lighter than the '73 and later ones. But, in perspective you can do anything you want with any tub because they are that flexible. In the end, a real six will always be a real six and all others are conversions.
That is from me, the purist.
Don