 Exhaust or Head Leak?, The verdict is in |
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| Allan |
 Dec 1 2005, 05:26 PM
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Teenerless Weenie  Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California  |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) Head leak!
My mechanic determined it was coming from the head and invited me over to take a look (Sorry no pics). When he pulled the lower valve cover off the head nut was just laying sideways in the hole. Either somebody screwed up when the heads were torqued or a stud has pulled out. Updates to follow. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
Dec 3 2005, 01:02 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Call EASY or Partsheaven for a used good 3.2L for $3500-4500 and never look back. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drooley.gif)
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| Allan |
Dec 3 2005, 01:09 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I've heard of Parts Heaven but who's EASY? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
a hooker.... |
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| sixnotfour |
Dec 3 2005, 01:13 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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while its not nice to kiss and tell
oh ya porsche parts , I bought 2 911 non sunrrof clips,and misc parts, from them great guys EASY 4060 Harlan Street - Emeryville, CA 94608 (510) 653-3279 - fax (510) 653-3178 |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Dec 3 2005, 01:19 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Can 3.2's be had that cheap? I thought $6K was closer to the market rate.
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| sixnotfour |
Dec 3 2005, 01:28 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Eddie914 found one up here Wa. 4000. no injection, why you would sell the injection off a 79k motor ? I dont know a good injection 750.-1000.
3.2 way better motor. something to consider you may be doing a top end on a 3.2 unless you see it run, it will probably need valve guides rings, rod bearings/bolts, you know while your there. |
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| Porsche Rescue |
Dec 3 2005, 01:43 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
Oklahoma Foreign wants $6300 complete from air cleaner to exhaust tip, with complete Motronic system, about $350 shipping to Oregon. They do compression and leak down tests before shipping and offer 90 day warranty. I was thinking that was not too bad. Guess EASY and Partsheaven should be explored.
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| Bleyseng |
Dec 3 2005, 01:57 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
'bout 4 mos ago up here was a 100k 3.2L document maint. for $5500 complete in Gig Harbor. Guy wrecked his babied 911.
I looked at that for a few days....but reality set in. Still have to finish this house and start the other house project. |
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| sixnotfour |
Dec 4 2005, 08:01 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,436 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains
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Did it work ? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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| Allan |
Dec 4 2005, 08:19 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I'll find out tomorrow hopefully. |
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| Allan |
Dec 5 2005, 01:33 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Preliminary results:
Just got back from my mechanics place and the heads took torque without a problem. He's buttoning it back up now so I should know if that will remedy the leak this afternoon. |
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| Flat VW |
Dec 5 2005, 02:07 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Ohh, that sounds good, I hope it works out for you, John |
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| SLITS |
Dec 5 2005, 05:56 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
??WELL??
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| Allan |
Dec 5 2005, 06:18 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Okay, stopped by my mechanics place on the way home from work to check on things. Everything is buttoned back up so I asked him if it was running again and he said to go ahead and start it.
So far it's nice and quite. He hasn't taken it out to drive it yet but it sounds good idling and when you rev it. It was leaking oil pretty bad as well so he added some dye to the oil and will take it out tomorrow to see if the re-torque on the heads fixed the leak. I'm just wondering if this is a symptom of a head stud pulling out. Pulls out enough to loosen the nut, re-torque, okay for awhile, loosens again, etc., etc. or do they usually just let go. |
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| Maltese Falcon |
Dec 5 2005, 07:21 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,701 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Allan, did the prev owner have any upgrades done to that case ? Dilivar or A-R-P studs, case savers ? 2.7 mag cases make great time trial motors, when they are kept lubed with piston squirters fed with nice cool oil from big front coolers.
My experience with those engines on the street is that they just don't like city driving and heat soak. Even after totally prepping my 2.7 single turbo engine , and never again pulling a stud, I could never get it to run dry at the case halves. The oil leaks did it in for me, sold it to a club racer-- and went on to the 3.0 sil/ alum case. Hope for the best- but keep your eyes on a 3.0 or 3.2 for the future (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Marty |
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| SLITS |
Dec 5 2005, 07:28 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Hey Allan....I have a 2.0 aluminum case that can be modified up to 2.7 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| bd1308 |
Dec 5 2005, 07:30 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I think i would have the guy retap anyway.....
the ol' hey look it tigtened thing doesnt work too well....and your screwed when the bolt falls out again, like in the case of my spark plug issue. b |
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| Allan |
Dec 5 2005, 07:33 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I was told by a 2.7 racer that the modified 2.0 case is the way to go. He said it would last forever. BUT, will someone please tell me if the repeated torque, loosening, torque, yadayada, is how it works? Pretty please??? |
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| Allan |
Dec 5 2005, 07:35 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
That's the problem Britt, he thinks that because it torqued so well it might already have time-certs installed. The motor was taken apart at one time we know. Has the oil fed tensioners plus you can see that the case was split. |
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| Maltese Falcon |
Dec 5 2005, 07:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,701 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Mulholland SoCal Member No.: 2,755 Region Association: None |
Allan, I found these in my old archives (07/78) . The 2.7 case was built with case savers and new studs --I can't remember if the dilivar studs came on the scene yet. Note the flycut piston tops for CR drop (7.5:1 for turbo) . The drilled/ copper faced 901 flywheel was an OE Porsche item (racing ).The copper tube just under the engine tin is for turbo return-oil. It was a quick revver and made good power @ 10 psi--but leaked oil @ 5,000 miles.
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