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First Time, Ralphie the Racer |
Howard |
Aug 20 2003, 12:19 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Ok, experts. Just bought a 73 4cyl 2.0 all ready to go in 'stock improved'. All the right goodies suspension wise, light weight, but stock motor.
Handles great, and taking it to Streets of Willow for open track days 9/27-28. It's a good deal ($165, show put on by Shelby club, but open to all makes) and I'm ready to roll. Last time in race car was 1970, so really am a novice. So what are the most likely parts to break? What spares should I bring? Do I have any chance against the big iron on that short track? Anyone want to join me? |
Brad Roberts |
Aug 20 2003, 02:28 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Gauges. You need to ad a oil temp gauge. Stock 2.0's without external coolers (mounted in the front with clean air passing thru them) will overheat in about 3 full throttle laps on a 85 degree day.
Take a throttle cable with you... Take a clutch cable with you... Check the break pads... Bleed the brakes prior to the event... flush the system and put KNOWN good fluid in it. Check the shift rod "pins" that screw into the couplers... Check the tranny fluid (change it if you dont know when it was changed last) Check the rear wheel bearings and front wheel bearings (easy to do when your bleeding the brakes) CHeck the engine/tranny mounts... Number 1: Have fun. Number 2: Take it easy... dont lift while in a corner. |
seanery |
Aug 20 2003, 06:45 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
fan belt.
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Bleyseng |
Aug 20 2003, 08:40 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
A assortment of fuses and round relays, extra oil to top off the oil to 1/2 quart high.
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boxstr |
Aug 20 2003, 08:46 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Digital camera, to take pics of the smile on your face to send to 914world.com
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Lawrence |
Aug 20 2003, 08:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Okay.. Riddle me this, Batman...
QUOTE Stock 2.0's without external coolers (mounted in the front with clean air passing thru them) will overheat in about 3 full throttle laps on a 85 degree day. So it's okay to run a 2.7 or 3.0 without a front mounted cooler, but a stock 2.0/4 needs one? Am I misquoting your previous statements, Brad? -Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
Bleyseng |
Aug 20 2003, 08:59 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think what he is saying is - On a 85 degree day at the track, a stock 2.0L 4 will overheat after 3 runs at WOT.
Autocrossing on a 85 degree day, my 2.1L will get really close to it. When Blair and I run switching driving between runs so we run a total of 8 runs in a short period. Just not enough air going over a stock oil cooler in that situation. Geoff |
drew365 |
Aug 20 2003, 09:57 AM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
You will probably ride the rear of the Shelby's through 80% of the track. They'll leave you behind on the two straights. My friend runs a similar 2.0 in improved stock class and turns ocassional 1:18's. Are you going to have a transponder to collect times? You should come out the the POC short track event there Nov. 8 & 9.
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seanery |
Aug 20 2003, 10:34 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
6's have a superior cooling capacity due to the bigger resevoir of oil.
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Howard |
Aug 20 2003, 11:28 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Thanks to all for your input. Will try to make the POC meet in November. Here is the PO's car description. An what does a Jaz breather bottle do (except collect water)?
Daily Driver - Street legal, California Smog-exempt, current Registration, clear Title Weekend Racer - Professionally prepared engine and suspension for Stock-Improved club racing classes (Autocross, Slalom, Time Trail, Wheel-to-Wheel) Preferred 2.0 Liter 4-Cylinder Engine, stock Bosch Fuel Injection Recent OEM Clutch High pressure Oil Relief Valves & Jaz breather bottle Blueprinted Oil Pump External Oil Cooler Extra capacity Oil Sump Custom engine Cooling vents Stainless steel Brake Lines Custom stainless steel Muffler Solid engine & transmission Mounts Bilstein Sport Shocks, front & rear 140# rear Coil springs Adjustable front Sway Bar Autopower Full Roll Cage, Stand-21 5-Point Seatbelts (both seats), recharged Fire Extinguisher Momo Suede Steering wheel with spacer, leather Shift knob Fuchs alloy wheels with Toyo Proxes RA1 performance tires PLUS set of American Racing wheels with street tires Fiberglass Bumpers, front & rear PLUS chrome stock bumpers, front and rear New windshield (race legal), new Battery Custom Tow Hooks, front and rear Custom Tow Bar available |
tryan |
Aug 20 2003, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
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Andyrew |
Aug 20 2003, 11:59 AM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
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Dave_Darling |
Aug 20 2003, 12:00 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,984 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I suggest that you don't just check the brake pads--replace them. I went through more than half a set of regular stock-type pads in a three-day weekend. Not good, because I started with the set half-gone...
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Brad Roberts |
Aug 20 2003, 12:00 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Sounds like you bought a decent car. My list applies to ANY car that you might take to the track. Its a general list that we use to go over each car before a track event.
LB you quoted correctly. The stock 4 had "adequate" cooling. The 911 engines had more than enough air cooling and nice fat supply of cool oil kept away from the engine. The type 4 engine experiences heat soak (read Bleysengs post) much much faster than any 911 engine. B |
tryan |
Aug 20 2003, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 553 Joined: 22-January 03 From: smokey mountains gatlinburg tn Member No.: 184 |
check the ears on the rear suspension console.
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Lawrence |
Aug 20 2003, 12:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,661 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 244 Region Association: None |
Thanks, Sean and Brad. I forgot about the oil tank. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chatsmiley.gif)
-Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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