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seanery	Dec 13 2005, 05:37 PM Post #1
waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None	I'm having major tooth pain. I need to get a molar removed, but can't do that until Wed or Thursday. The dentist that examined me today wrote me a script for Tylenol 3 (300/30) and amoxicylin. It doesn't seem that the Tylenol 3 is doing anything. I'm still in major pain. The prescription calls for 1 or 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours. I took the first one at 2:50pm. After it was apparant that 1 wasn't going to cut the pain I took a second one at 4:00pm. Still, I'm in pretty severe pain. The codeine made me a bit groggy, but I'm not able to sleep. I haven't slept since Saturday night, and was hoping to be able to do it tonite. Can I? 1. Take a 3rd pill when it's time for round 2? 2. Supplement the Tylenol 3 with Extra Strength Tylenol? (I do worry about too much acetominophin since I took A LOT the last few days) 3. Suggestions from the Doc? Thanks in advance, I really would like to be able to sleep tonite. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

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DanT	Dec 13 2005, 09:13 PM Post #21
Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None	I don't know how they extract teeth in the Netherlands, but in the U.S. we try not to "break" the roots. That makes the procedure of doing the extraction much more technique intense. Incision, bone removal, sutures, etc. there are not many folks out there that want to have a tooth extracted with out anesthesia. Do they strap you down to the chair so you don't move abruptly or cause yourself more pain and suffering? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

MecGen	Dec 13 2005, 10:06 PM Post #22
8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421	I feel for you man...+Karma your way QUICK (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) My brother had a major accident, costing him most of his teeth and some bone....lots of dental work. He developed a resistance to freezing...imagine... Painful topic but realy cool it can be posted in a car club, and to get professional advice to boot....priceless. Later (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)

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Dec 13 2005, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE (Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Dec 14 2005, 04:13 AM)

I don't know how they extract teeth in the Netherlands, but in the U.S. we try not to "break" the roots.

You're right... I expressed it wrong.
What I meant was the root breaking free from the jaw, not the tooth breaking off the root (BTDT too, no fun (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif) )

GWN7	Dec 13 2005, 11:00 PM Post #24
King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region	I just went thru the same thing bud and still have the suture in my head. My sympathy goes out to you. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) *And why when this happens does it start on a Sat night..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

DNHunt	Dec 14 2005, 08:59 AM Post #25
914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598	Damn Sean, I wish I'd seen this last night. I hope you are feeling better. If you are feeling better with the ibuprofin and acetaminophen and codiene phosphate keep taking it on schedule. You don't want to have to climb the same mountain again. Take both meds with plenty of food. Ibuprofin is tough on the stomach and codiene can cause intestinal cramping but, both things are helped with food. Amoxicillin will take 24 to 48 hrs to see much improvement from it so you still have a wait there. If you start to swell into your cheek call the guy back right away even if it is on the weekend. Infections in that area can be serious. Amoxicillin is a great drug but, there are bugs that maybe unaffected by it. If it does get better don't miss the next appointment, get it taken care of. If you are going to use a local anesthetic for the extraction see if he will use a drug called Articaine (Septocaine). The stuff is great. The guy will probably think you are nuts asking for a particular drug but, just say your cousin is a dentist in Washington and that will explain your request. Good luck Dave

seanery	Dec 14 2005, 09:15 AM Post #26
waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None	Well, that was THE WORST night I've ever had. It started out well enough. Shortly after I took the ibuprofen I decided I should eat a little something. Well, things just went downhill from there. After I was done eating the pain came back and absolutely would not go away. When it was time for the next Tylenol 3 I took 2 and went ahead and took 200mg more ibuprofen. The pain just wouldn't go away. I did, however, get a horrible stomach ache. I wished I could vomit, but couldn't. The only respite from the pain had been coming from me sucking on a bit of water. I did that for several hours and decided that I might try ginger ale, to help with the stomach wierdness. After 4 ginger ales and 3 gallons of water I am totally bloated and haven't slept a wink. I'm also worried about taking anymore pills because I don't want to feel like that again. I can't eat either. This really sucks. I wish I would have listened to Dave a year ago and got this thing fixed then. The only good news is that the tooth is gonna be removed at 12:45 tomorrow. I just hope I can make it til then.

41ghost	Dec 14 2005, 09:23 AM Post #27
Member Group: Members Posts: 235 Joined: 13-July 04 From: noblesville,in. Member No.: 2,345	SCREW THE DRUGS, TRY ALCOHOL, IF YOU KNOW YOUR LIMIT SO YOU DO NOT GET SICK , JUST DO A LITTLE DRINKING AND PUT YOURSELF TO SLEEP.

rhodyguy	Dec 14 2005, 09:35 AM Post #28
Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch	a year ago? wow! tooth decay, like rust, nevers sleeps. having a little bottle of clove oil handy got me through a few bad experiences back in the day. k

736conver	Dec 14 2005, 09:53 AM Post #29
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None	You may want to try some ambesol(sp) or oral gel. I had the same thing happen about 8 years ago. Tooth broke off, didnt get it taken care of. I used ambesol when it got really bad, and then took some alieve as the ambesol was takening effect.

DNHunt	Dec 14 2005, 09:58 AM Post #30
914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598	No ....ing alcohol. It's additive with the codiene and can depress respiration. Sean, call the dentist he can get you better meds. Have someone drive you. He'll need to write the script. Demerol 50- 75 mg would be a good choice but don't ask for it cause he'll think you are a druggie. Dave

rhodyguy	Dec 14 2005, 10:11 AM Post #31
Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch	a hangover AND a killer toothache. great combo!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) k

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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Dec 14 2005, 09:11 AM)

a hangover AND a killer toothache. great combo!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

k

sounds fun.

get morphine (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

GeorgeRud	Dec 14 2005, 11:02 AM Post #33
Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest	As the post is getting a little too medical, I thought I best chime in. My brother is an internal medicine specialist, and an anesthesiologist (double boarded, yep). I've spent the past 25 years practicing veterinary medicine, and my cousin is a pharmacist, so I want to pass this advice. Do not mix medications as are being recommeded. They all can have serious side effects, some fatal. Mixing Tylenol with alcohol can kill your liver after only a single episode! It's the second leading cause of liver transplants, but rarely talked about. No one knows why this can happen, it's just unknown reaction in some people. Perhaps the best advice is take care of your teeth, and please follow your doctor's instructions.

tdgray	Dec 14 2005, 12:09 PM Post #34
Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None	Doesn't drinking alcohol cancel out the effectiveness of antibiotics also? or is that just and old wives tale?

MecGen	Dec 14 2005, 06:34 PM Post #35
8 Easy Steps Group: Members Posts: 848 Joined: 8-January 05 From: Laval, Canada Member No.: 3,421	Oh Shit... [Do not mix medications as are being recommeded. They all can have serious side effects, some fatal. ] I knew a guy in high school that popped his moms Valium, chased with a beer. Bet he felt no pain... Dude you OK? I realy hope you have time off from pain. Sending more +Karma (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)

seanery	Dec 14 2005, 08:42 PM Post #36
waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None	I just woke up from 4 hours of bliss! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) The dentist recomended that I up the Ibuprofen to 800mg. That seems to have helped. I'm trying to get a bit of food in me, so I won't have the nasuea that I had last night (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Flat VW	Dec 14 2005, 09:28 PM Post #37
Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105	I bet it was the chocolate malted milkshakes that finally put him over the top. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif) P.S. Wishing you wellness.

Tobra	Dec 15 2005, 12:38 PM Post #38
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634	Tylenol will bag your liver, be careful with it. There are a ton of dead rock stars that were done in by booze and narcotics mixed, try not to kill yourself. If you take ibuprofen 600 mg every 4 hours, and the narcotic pain medication as directed every four hours, and time it so you are taking someting every 2 hours, you will get better pain control. Keeping it from hurting is more effective than trying to stop it from hurting. An ice pack on a bad tooth is also often very helpful. There are a lot of topical anesthetics that will give you short term relief as well. If it is painful due to an exposed nerve, which is likely, you can get stuff that is sort of like clay that will protect the nerve.

seanery	Dec 15 2005, 05:03 PM Post #39
waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None	tooth removed. Damn guy was fast! Once given the numbing shot (what is that stuff Dave?) I was in immediate relief. The extraction was done in a jiffy. It was less than an hour from when I walked in the door til I walked out the door and was done for the bargain price of $88. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) New meds are Vicidin, so far so good. The best parts were: 1. After the numbing shot I was so relieved that I almost fell asleep right there in the chair! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/yawn.gif) 2. When I got home I was able to sleep for 2 hours. I can't wait to see what sleeping for a night will be like (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Flat VW	Dec 15 2005, 05:21 PM Post #40
Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105	Glad you are better, now go take a nap (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/yawn.gif) John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif) P.S. Or you could count sheep.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif)

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