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Bruce Allert
post Aug 23 2003, 02:28 AM
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Whew..... finally (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Started on them suckers last week fully expecting to take a day off this week to finish. My asst. had an emergency leave situation so there the car stood, up on stands partially apart. Managed to get it together today after dinner and finished it up. Hope it's right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Will know in the morning....
This was quite the experience. Now for AX on Sunday!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif)
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post Aug 23 2003, 06:13 AM
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You won't believe the differece.

Go get 'em. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)

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post Aug 23 2003, 09:07 AM
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Pic of what I found under the gas tank. This squirell was busy... these Filbert or Hazel nuts were throughout the car when I bought it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Aug 23 2003, 09:24 AM
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atta boy bruce!!! we "mature" guys are so focused.

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post Aug 23 2003, 09:41 AM
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Have a beer, I know you deserve it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I finished the front susp. on the 911 yesterday
(swaybar, bigger t-bars, new bushings)

working on the rear right now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
(I like the rear susp. of the 914 a LOT better, it's much easier)

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post Aug 23 2003, 09:53 AM
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post Aug 23 2003, 09:57 AM
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It's rattle can primer... quick lazy fix to cover some stone-chips

cheers,

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post Aug 23 2003, 10:27 AM
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Just got back from the test spin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) It works and what a difference (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) How did I do without (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I'll be doin' the rears as soon as I get time & learn what the setting is for the welder for this metal. I have a wire feed in the shop at work that I'll either bring home or just do it there.
If this just made it 100% better then the rears must do another 100%. (cool! then I'll just float around the corners, eh?) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
All I gotta say is "what a car" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 23 2003, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(Jeroen @ Aug 23 2003, 07:41 AM)
I finished the front susp. on the 911 yesterday
(swaybar, bigger t-bars, new bushings)

don't get me started on 5/16" Heim joints in single shear in this application...
i don't want to be an alarmist but i must say once again that it's a bad idea.

you are, of course, free to ignore me and it won't hurt my feelings. just be careful, okay ?
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post Aug 23 2003, 11:33 AM
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Bruce, I wouldn't bother with the rear. More hassle than it's worth IMHO.

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post Aug 23 2003, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Aug 23 2003, 07:30 PM)
don't get me started on 5/16" Heim joints in single shear in this application...
i don't want to be an alarmist but i must say once again that it's a bad idea.

Educate me, oh wise one!
But seriously, I suppose you are referring to the spherical bearings/monoballs for the rear "banana" trailing arms?
Please explain

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post Aug 23 2003, 02:19 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Way to go Bruce! Now you wont be dragging your nice shiny door handles along the ground when you take hard turns! See ya tommorow
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post Aug 23 2003, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Aug 23 2003, 01:33 PM)
Bruce, I wouldn't bother with the rear. More hassle than it's worth IMHO.

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Good deal Bruce! I'm with Dave on the adding a rear bar.

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Maybe you need a higher rate front bar though...

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post Aug 23 2003, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Jeroen @ Aug 23 2003, 10:21 AM)
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Aug 23 2003, 07:30 PM)
don't get me started on 5/16" Heim joints in single shear in this application...
i don't want to be an alarmist but i must say once again that it's a bad idea.

Educate me, oh wise one!
But seriously, I suppose you are referring to the spherical bearings/monoballs for the rear "banana" trailing arms?

i had a 5/16" front antiroll bar droplink Heim joint fail in compression, resulting in near-total loss of car (my yellow factory /6). and that was a joint in double shear.

i agree with Carroll Smith, who more frequently than not was right on these isues - single shear is a crime against nature. 5/16" is just not strong enough for this application. 3/8" probably is.

someone (Demmick?) and i had a long discussion on and off Rennlist about this a while back. using female rod ends and high-strength threaded stuf portion might be okay if you *must* use 5/16", but once-burned/twice shy for me - i'm not using anything smaller than 3/8 for my droplink rod ends ever again.

i think any of the rear semi-trailing arm monoball kits are fine from what i've seen; i'll probably be using one of them this winter myself.
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post Aug 23 2003, 02:41 PM
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Do you guys feel that a rear bar on a stock suspended 914 is not needed? I would think that if everything was stock, a rear bar waould help. Maybe I am not knowing....??
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post Aug 23 2003, 02:56 PM
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I like the rear bar. I like to run my noses a little lower than the rears, they take up the lil wiggle on transitions. If you like to snap the car around, prolly better without them.

It feels like the car holds energy better with them, like the Force is with you.


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post Aug 23 2003, 04:32 PM
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The install of the rear doesn't look any harder than the front, actually it appears easier but I thought the front was going to be a piece of cake (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Don't get me wrong... the front wasn't that bad. Going into a project for the first time is always eye opening with surprises (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
All i all, it was enjoyable. I found the link for welding in another posting by (I think) it was John of Ghia Specialties. Got it copied & ready to read it thoroughly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Chris, glad to hear you will be down tomorrow. Try to drag Geoff & Kevin too.....
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post Aug 23 2003, 11:31 PM
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Do you guys feel that a rear bar on a stock suspended 914 is not needed? I would think that if everything was stock, a rear bar waould help. Maybe I am not knowing....??



Find somebody with one. Drive it, then disconnect it. I personally like it for what I do with the car - AXs & windy roads. Make your own choice.
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I found that there wasn't a whole lot of difference on my car. It rotated a little better with the bar in place, but that was it. I preferred the handling of the car with the stock suspension and with the stock front and rear bars, but I don't think the difference was great enough to bother breaking out the welder.

And once I started upgrading the suspension, the rear bar was way overkill and was removed.

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