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HTP Welders, anyone use them? |
seanery |
Aug 24 2003, 10:39 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
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redshift |
Aug 24 2003, 02:38 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
I want to learn to weld.
What is the highest duty one would need for working on a car? I am guessing the really big ones could build a ship.... 3/4"! Jees! I guess you would need at least the low end 220v model, to cover all bases? Last time I welded, I was like 9, and it scared the hell out of me. M |
Jeroen |
Aug 24 2003, 06:05 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Their MIG160 looks nice (they even have a version of it that works with 110V)
Any prices on these thingies? cheers, Jeroen |
redshift |
Aug 24 2003, 06:10 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
QUOTE(Jeroen @ Aug 24 2003, 08:05 PM) Any prices on these thingies? cheers, Jeroen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yeah... 2nd link from El Seanery Manufacturer Htp Mfg. Part # 60160 HTP MIG WELDER, 160 AMP, WELDS UP TO 5/16. DOES NOT INCLUDE REGULATOR OR TANK. Unit Price 1449.00 SALE PRICE 1086.75 |
Jeroen |
Aug 24 2003, 06:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Crap! Thanks pretty expensive!
I can get a decent 150 amp welder here for around $600 - $700, including a regulator and a 2.5 gallon gasbottle cheers, Jeroen |
seanery |
Aug 24 2003, 06:18 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
This is the one that caught my fancy:
------------------------------------------------ Manufacturer Htp Mfg. Part # 70100 Invertig 100, Tig Welder, 115v, 16 amp, 1/8 max thickness, duty cycle 60% at 85 amps. Unit Price 599.00 SALE PRICE 449.25 Quantity |
redshift |
Aug 24 2003, 06:29 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
Sounds like TIG is the way to go, yah.. sounds like experts can do it easy, oh yeah..
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) What is more painful? I want the other one. M |
seanery |
Aug 24 2003, 06:33 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
mig is easier. tig is quiet & clean.
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Jeroen |
Aug 24 2003, 06:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
Never tig-welded before
I'd like to try it some time I heard it's quite a bit harder than mig-welding? cheers, Jeroen |
seanery |
Aug 24 2003, 06:59 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Jeroen,
It depends on the material. I picked up aluminum quickly. Stainless kicked my ass. (Oh wait, was it the other way around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ) |
URY914 |
Aug 24 2003, 07:08 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,510 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
If I had to buy a MIG welder again, I'd go with a Miller or a Lincon. I have a Daytona MIG. Sorta cheap. I'd stick with the name brands. One that I can walk into the local welding supply house and say I'm trying to do this or that and they'll have experence with my machine.
Paul |
cha914 |
Aug 24 2003, 11:31 PM
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MUSR 8 - 5lug conversion done wed - drive 500miles thrus Group: Members Posts: 739 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 63 |
If you are going to buy a welder, my Miller...period...maybe a Lincoln (mig only) if you find a good price on em... here is a good site for welding stuff online, they have some of the cheapest prices around:
www.cyberweld.com As far as MIG and TIG go ... MIG has just a one piece torch, the wire comes out of the middle of the torch, its easy to weld, but harder to see the weld puddle and harder to be real accurate and clean with. That said, a little 110 amp Miller or Lincoln MIG will do about anything you will need to do on a car. But I do recommend getting one that you can hook up a gas line to cause it welds TONS better with Gas than with flux wire=very messy. TIG is basically the same as Oxy fuel welding, except alot cleaner and alot more controlable ... with TIG you have a torch that supplies the heat, then you hold the filler rod in you other hand and feed it in as needed, and the best part is you have amperage control either with a foot pedal or a knob on the torch that allows you to weld hotter or colder as you go, so you can control the weld puddle and set your pace better. Anyway, I just got a Miller 250 Tigrunner ... it kicks ass!!! But probably a litte more than most want to spend on a welder. 914 rust...here I come (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Tony |
JWest |
Aug 25 2003, 09:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,662 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Fort Worth, TX Member No.: 97 Region Association: None |
My dad has an HTP - 160 I think. VERY nice machine.
With the power all the way down and inverted I could tack two razor blades together (a little trick on the video that comes with it) and I have welded up to 5/16 wall tubing with it when I built a frame jig. |
mr914 |
Aug 27 2003, 09:55 AM
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914 Hillbilly Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 11-January 03 From: Lincoln NE Member No.: 131 Region Association: None |
I personally would opt to buy a used Millermatic 150.
I've seen them go at auctions for less than $200 with the gas bottle. |
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