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> Just Another Trip To Home Depot,, Until: Screeeech, Bang; shortened 914
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:20 AM
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On the way to Home Depot last night, 1/2 mile from my house,
waiting to turn left on Rt309 outside of Allentown,
I heard a loud screech behind me, looked in the rear view mirror
in time to see headlights disappear behind my car - then BANG.

The 1990 Mazda faired much better than the 914.

From what I can see without looking underneath the car
or opening the trunk (which won't open):

Trunk lid folded
Rear bumper crumpled
Pass Taillight gone
Rear Valence creased
Fender pushed into rear tire, car moves under its own power but not far
Engine seems to have a miss now
One cylinder is very loud (header or head damaged?)
Pass and Driver door gaps now different
- Pass door gap almost nothing at the top, seems larger at the bottom
- Driver door gap even top to bottom but seems larger now
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:22 AM
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A scene that I hoped I would never see.


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:24 AM
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Her insurance Co is the same as mine.

What type of compensation could I expect?

What should I ask for?

I think the chassis is toast.


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:24 AM
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That really sucks.

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Hope things are slavageable, and if they arn't, I hope you are able to get another teener up and running!

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post Jan 5 2006, 08:26 AM
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Ah Man... Sorry for the loss (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) I can empathize wit'cha.

Too many drivers out there with their HUTA (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)

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post Jan 5 2006, 08:26 AM
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Damn, I just finished the backend, stripped trunk paint, welded new floor in, reconditioned the rear valence, did some rear bumper work.

I guess if I had waited a month or so, I could have saved myself some work.


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:27 AM
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i've seen miracles happen with these cars with respect to auto-repair...

It certainly a bad sight to see...

I too hope you are able to get it repaired...hopefully thier insurance won't total the car.

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post Jan 5 2006, 08:28 AM
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Although not obvious in this pic, the driver side door gap is now larger, plus the door seems to be a bit higher in the back by a couple of millimeters.


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:33 AM
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On the passenger side, the door and rear quarter came together during impact. This gap is very small at the top and large at the bottom. Was very consistent and smaller before.

What's the prognosis on this vehicle? Is this chassis repairable?
Has anyone had their car fixed through an insurance company?


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE (Spoke @ Jan 5 2006, 10:24 AM)
What type of compensation could I expect?

not a penny more than you have it insured for.
check the Blue Book or the appropriately named NADA reference for the value of a 35 year old car. figure $500, plus or minus. read your policy.
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What should I ask for?

i think you'll find it won't matter.

this sucks, good luck with it. BTDT, your choices turn out to be either roll over early, or spend every waking hour fighting. ultimately the cost is often about the same, it's just which you want.

the good news of a low total value is you can buy it back for the salvage value and swap a bunch of parts to any of the other plentiful rust-free NE cars...
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:37 AM
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The trunk lid is pushed up over the engine hood so I can't open the engine hood. I'll look under the car in a day or so.

Any suggestions to prepare myself to deal with the insurance company?

What kind of settlements have others had in a situation like this?

The other driver admitted fault to the PA State police so there's no question on my liability.


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post Jan 5 2006, 08:37 AM
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unless you have a Stated Value policy........... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sheeplove.gif)
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post Jan 5 2006, 09:24 AM
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The real question, Do you want it fixed or want the money.

Start getting all of your reciepts together, if you took any before or after pics, print them. Any and all records, etc. Check with your state's insurance department about your rights, etc. In Calif you, not the insurance company pick the repair shop, etc.

From the pics you posted, the car looks repairable, couple of g's.

I just went thru this when I got hit and run by some scumbag while the 6 was parked. Caught the ins in a lie about repairability.
Went over the adjusters head and talked to their boss. Long story short, I got my door fixed instead of replaced.

It's gonna be a hassle, for one, your toy, hobby, pride and joy is broke and needs to be fixed, that's why you have insurance.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Glad you weren't hurt.

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post Jan 5 2006, 09:34 AM
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I had the same type of hit on my first 914, back in 1993. They totaled the car, it was repairable for sure - but it was cheaper for them to total it. Get your receipts ready that will help along with autotrader ads, excellence market values etc. I had a ton of receipts and got 5k back then, and bought the tub back for $500.00. Good luck!
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post Jan 5 2006, 09:36 AM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) MAZDA drivers.
That totally sucks.
Tha fact that you have the same insurance shouldn't matter, except that you won't have any leverage (unless your neck hurts today). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) Fight them because they have only one concern - their own bottom line. Don't accept anything until you get your own assesment at a shop of your choosing.
They should pay full replacement cost for the vehicle as appraised by a qualified Porsche appraiser. Anything less is criminal IMO. A quality repair job by an appropriate repair shop will probably exceed $5k anyway, since you want ALL the damage repaired.
The NADA book means nothing. You have a collectible antique car that is worth far in excesss of the "blue book" value.
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post Jan 5 2006, 09:39 AM
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post Jan 5 2006, 09:40 AM
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just did the registry and paid my taxes on a 914

Blue book wholesale average is 4400..
Average retail is 7k

This is NADA blue book value.

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post Jan 5 2006, 09:42 AM
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Agreed with above,

Gather ALL receipts for parts and labor (if you did the work yourself you must include a reasonable amount for you work) and get estimates from three well known and very quality workmanship minded places, and then pursue, don't care if it is the same insurance company, they will you should'nt. No luck, I cringe when I say this, call and attorney. Look up this guy, Mike Cefalo he is practicing in PA and he is a car guy. I don't like his antics on the track but if I wanted a lawyer, he would be one of my first calls. Not sure if he deals in this sort of law, but he will have friends.

Spark plug wires are common to come off in an accident. Anyone with a celette rack, or a solid body guy can repair that properly. Foleys race car was much worse than that and he fixed it. Sorry to hear of your misfortune.


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post Jan 5 2006, 09:54 AM
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bummer,
I have a complete set of rear tin if you want...it comes with a car...but for really really cheap you can have it and scavenge what you need.

Both rear fenders are good, trunk lid is not...rear valance I have from another car cut out already.

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post Jan 5 2006, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (Thorshammer @ Jan 5 2006, 10:42 AM)
Look up this guy, Mike Cefalo he is practicing in PA and he is a car guy. I don't like his antics on the track but if I wanted a lawyer, he would be one of my first calls. Not sure if he deals in this sort of law, but he will have friends.

Yeah, as long as he doesn't hate all 914 drivers after what happened between his son and me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)
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