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> Infant Baby seat in a 914, Is it safe?
Tom Perso
post Jan 5 2006, 06:39 PM
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I have to ask, since I'm going to be a dad!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) The new addition to our family should arrive around July 28th. This will be our first, so we're excited as can be!!!

Now, my honey-do list just got a lot longer... Wish me luck as I am going to try and have a RUNNING 914 before the baby comes around. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Just gotta build a motor, put the front end back together, wire for the Megasquirt, tune it, etc, etc... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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post Jan 5 2006, 06:44 PM
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i am going to say no with the original seat belts because they do not lock (like the ones in modern cars if you pull them all the way out (try it).

the middle console can have a third belt set up but it will wreck the centre cushion.

not to say I do not do it. I have a 2 year old and a 6 month old and they have been in the car many times.

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post Jan 5 2006, 06:44 PM
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i get mine pretty secure with just the seat belt. i use the BRITAX. it's a little more expensive, but it is the best one out there. of the three different car seats we own, it fits the best because of it's small base. the britax also has a place to slide the belt through so that it will lock. i have plans to add latch points to my 914 this winter. i will post pictures when i am done.

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post Jan 5 2006, 06:47 PM
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Congrats! My four and a half year old loves to ride in my car. Of course she only needs a booster seat.
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post Jan 5 2006, 06:48 PM
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Congrats..
I have a four year old and he is stillin a car seat. Bigger then the standard infant one, but a car seat the same. Kind of concerns me thinking about him riding in it. Every car we have had over the past 15 years has had air bags, etc so I have felt more comfortable I guess. That's not to say I couldn't die in the steel cage I drive around in now... I guess kind of a false sense of security..
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post Jan 5 2006, 07:09 PM
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Yeah, it was really just a half-serious question. We have a new Passat and other more safe vehicles, so the child will be riding in those cars.

I just wanted to announce that we'll be having our first child!

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post Jan 5 2006, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Tom Perso @ Jan 5 2006, 05:09 PM)
I just wanted to announce that we'll be having our first child!

Congrats. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Tom Perso @ Jan 5 2006, 05:09 PM)
I just wanted to announce that we'll be having our first child!

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Good for you, Tom.(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)

Your life will now change forever.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE (Tom Perso @ Jan 5 2006, 07:09 PM)
I just wanted to announce that we'll be having our first child!

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Tom

Congrats on your impending expanded family! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Your best bet is to take a car seat and your 914 to the fire station and they'll tell you for sure (if you truely want to know). I've read statistics that a huge percentage of people don't even have their car seats installed correctly, but I'm not sure where that came from, so take it with a grain of salt.

Kids here (Colorado) have to be in a booster seat until they're 55" tall or 6 years old (I think), but I've read *experts!* suggest for optimal safety, use a car/booster seat until they're 80 lbs! That would have kept my kids in car seats until 7th grade.

Anyway, I digress... you really just wanted to announce impending daddome! Sorry for the yada yada yada... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:35 PM
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congrats Tom! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) cheers!
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post Jan 5 2006, 08:59 PM
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post Jan 5 2006, 09:00 PM
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Sorry for the (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/hijacked.gif) Just wanted to post these.


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post Jan 5 2006, 09:23 PM
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Congratulations! (poor guy)

And please take the kid for a ride in the teener. I did it all the time with my 2 sons. Secure the base using the metal clip provided with the seat to lock in the belt and hit the road. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

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post Jan 5 2006, 09:32 PM
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These are good ideas while the kids are real small, but the real question was when we had our second kid. Had to go and buy a 911 to get two back seats! Try to get a child seat that fits back there, this was before the days before Porsche decided to offer any that fit - it took a lot of measuring and modification of child seat bases to get an acceptable fit.

Now both kids drive themselves and it's been back to the 914-6 for just my wife Julie and me! Enjoy those early days, they pass all to quickly!
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post Jan 6 2006, 06:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure my wife wouldn't allow having our kid ride in the 914. She's not even real keen on having the kid ride in my E30 BMW. I can see her point (I guess). So, for now - We'll stick with hauling the kid around in the Passat and my 2000 Dakota.

But, I still need it running so I can "get away" for a bit. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

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post Jan 6 2006, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Jan 5 2006, 04:44 PM)
use the BRITAX. it's a little more expensive, but it is the best one out there. of the three different car seats we own, it fits the best because of it's small base. the britax also has a place to slide the belt through so that it will lock.

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We have three Britax seats and they are the best. It's the brand that makes the factory Porsche child seats.

I'd keep the baby haulin' limited to the 5 star crash rated minivan. Wait until booster seat time. Just my .02.

Congrats on the baby! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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post Jan 6 2006, 09:58 AM
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Congrats, Tom! Finish your work on that teener before he's a toddler 'cause they're a handfull!

I'm one of those firefighters that SharonG mentioned. I'm also a CERTIFIED CPS Tech/Instructor. (CPS is short for Child Passenger Safety). Important note: not all firefighters are certified any more than those at the hospitals who insist on seeing your carseat prior to you leaving with your newborn!

The answer to your question is yes. Since there are no airbags in the teener, it is perfectly acceptable to put the carseat in it, provided it is properly installed. The type of seatbelts make this a challenge, but there is a techique that works using a locking clip. Installing latch points would make you a God from my perspective, but something to consider....God forbid you ever crash that teener and the anchor point(s) fails, you'll have no legal recourse. It'll be a bigger PITA to use the seat belt, but you're better off in the worst case scenario.

For everybody reading (stepping up on my soapbox), I highly recommend that anyone who drives and has kids (regardless of vehicle or ego) seek out a carseat technician to check their carseats. These folks not only check seats, but they offer tips and tricks for safety and comfort of your children. Stuff that we as parents often don't know to ask about.

I'll follow with another post with web sites of where you can find CPS checks in your areas.
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As promised:

National Highway/Transportation Safety Administration . Info can be found here in the quick search drop down under Child Passenger Safety.

Safekids Worldwide is the worldwide organization that found the CPS certification courses in conjunction with AAA. This is, hands down, the best resource.

www.cpsboard.org is a good place to pose questions to techs.

Tom, 2 quick things:

1. The technique I spoke of is called "belt-shortening". Ask for it by name. Don't worry it doesn't involve cutting or altering the belt.

2. Remember it's not safe to put a child in ANY convertible with the top off. Immature airways and eyes are too easily damaged by fast-moving particles.

Hope this helps. Sorry for the soapbox, this is a passion of mine.
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post Jan 6 2006, 11:28 AM
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The reason I'm not cool with a small child in a 914 is the low height of the cars, especially considering the proliferation of much larger (SUV)vehicles nowdays. I wouldn't want my kid in my 914 and have some moron in a Navigator doing a real world test. Of course it's also sort of situational, here in rural TN, with very little traffic it's probably a safer move than in a metro area.

Yes they 914 has excellent crashworthyness, but not as good as most newer sedans, or family vans.
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post Jan 6 2006, 01:57 PM
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How about lots of padding... foam rubber, or some such, in the front trunk?

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