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icedogbill |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 31-July 04 From: louisville,tennessee Member No.: 2,424 ![]() |
See a beautiful Lotus Europa on e-bay.The sale died Sat.evening but re-appeared
today.Would be an interesting compliment to my 914. Any feedback? |
lapuwali |
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Not another one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 ![]() ![]() |
They're extremely fragile. Rub a curb parking it and you may need to find a frame shop or replace suspension bits.
They're REALLY small. If you're over 5' 9", you'll find it cramped. You basically sit right on the floor, so if there's not enough headroom for you, there's no way to gain any. The wheel well seriously intrudes on the pedal box, forcing your feet to the right. Be prepared to learn to do fiberglass work. You can't see squat behind you. I'd have one if I could find a nice one and didn't already have a 914. IMHO, the 914 is much more practical and much more useful as a regular car. You can lighten a 914 until it's pretty close to the weight of a later Europa (1700lbs or so) and still have a sturdier car that won't break if you hit a bad pothole. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 ![]() |
I have one. It's a project and it ranks behind the /6 restoration. It's slowly moving forward. I can't wait to drive it.
You can actually see it (barely) at the back of the garage at left. Michel |
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 30-December 04 From: Jefferson,ME. Member No.: 3,376 ![]() |
My father bought a red one when I was in high school.Owned it for 4+ months.Sold it because of the divorce. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/spank.gif) .Only got 1 ride-very awsome car!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif)
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 ![]() ![]() |
brilliant cars..got a ride with an LMeuropa....got a cobra engine in
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Cap'n Krusty |
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
Two words: "French driveline". The Cap'n
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thesey914 |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,155 Joined: 1-January 03 From: Staffordshire -England Member No.: 66 ![]() ![]() |
you sure it isn't the esprit that has the renault gearbox?
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 ![]() |
Does French drive train equate to going backwards faster than foward?
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Just like last years Formula 1 winner. |
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lapuwali |
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Not another one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 ![]() ![]() |
The Europa has the Renault gearbox. Indeed, the first Europas used a Renault engine, too, until the Big Valve engines came along. Chapman's road cars have nearly always been about modest power with little weight (often too little) to get their performance, and the Europa was no different. Chunky never had any problems about filching bits from various cars if a good deal was to be had.
These days, of course, you can easily build a Europa holding just about any driveline you care to imagine. Banks Garage will sell you a stronger than stock frame that can hold Rover, Vauxhall, or Ford engines, and there are several transaxle options to choose from. As for last year's F1 winner, I'd bet money that the transaxle was English made, as nearly the entire field uses parts made by Xtrac. The Renault F1 "factory" is in England, not France. Only the engines are designed and made in France. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: 28-March 03 From: milwaukee WI Member No.: 488 ![]() |
hope you have small feet
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,706 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None ![]() |
Nooo. translation. I surrender (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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neo914-6 |
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neo life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 ![]() |
Two words: Lotus (Ford block) TC (twin cam) baby! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aktion035.gif) so I can't count... |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 ![]() |
You mean the weigth of the later cars. Early S1 cars, like mine, are more like 1,300 pounds. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 ![]() |
I resemble that remark |
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Turbo Megasquirted Subaru Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,827 Joined: 7-April 03 From: San Francisco, CA Member No.: 530 Region Association: Northern California ![]() |
Hey, I resemble that remark !!! |
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I am Tangerine Racing ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,981 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
My brother has a couple of them - project cars.
If I'm not mistaken the Renault head has the intake manifold as part of the casting. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif) |
race914 |
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73 914-4 ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Nipomo, California (Central Coast) Member No.: 5,027 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
Here is a europa at Laguna...
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michel richard |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,291 Joined: 22-July 03 From: Longueuil, Québec Member No.: 936 ![]() |
Chris, My Europa hass the Renault engine, and head. Both manifolds are separate from the head casting. I kinda like that little car. Michel |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 424 Joined: 30-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 214 Region Association: None ![]() |
I was negotiating to buy an S1 up in Napa when I found my 914-6. I test drove it around for a bit. The Europa wasn't in very good tune but it still was gobs of fun to drive. It drove like a go-kart. Can't compare it to the 914-6 though because the -6 is still on jackstands.
They're supposed to be pretty fragile and the backbone/frame is subject to rusting. There are replacement pieces available but they're pricey I hear. The car is tiny and hard to get into. But it was very comfortable. I'm 6' and had no trouble once inside the car. Driving postition was kind of like sitting in a Barcalounger - very comfy. If you wear size 8 shoes or above you will probably do some unintentional heel-and-toeing. I still would like to get one of the early Renault engined Europas. The engine is much lighter than the Twin-Cam (less than 150lbs, IIRC) and can be modified to produce as much power as the Ford Twinks. |
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