 rear trailing arm question, to go 5 lug or not |
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| Tom |
 Jan 31 2006, 05:13 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None  |
Posted earlier but called them read control arms. missleading by a newbie! But, I am learning! OK maybe a little.
I pulled both off due to side to side movement. Took one apart- inside bushing 75% gone, don't know where it went. Outside bushing is very worn and brittle and now in pieces. So basically I need to replace both side bushings. The hubs are pretty noisey also, so should put in new bearings. Well why not blast and paint too? Only thing is ,I do not have easy access to the sand blaster, press, and any other tools that would be needed to renew these trailing arms. Here is the question. Would it be worth the extra $$$ to get Eric's package deal and go 5 lug at the same time? Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tom |
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| ChicagoChris |
Jan 31 2006, 05:30 PM
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It was jack-stand-tastic! Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 3-November 05 From: Chicago (burbs), IL Member No.: 5,062 |
The package for the rears is a good deal. And if you don't have access to equipment then it is a better deal. Are you gust redrilling the fronts or changing to the 911 for the brakes?
Chris |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 31 2006, 06:13 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
my ride be sporting PMB eric shea rear arms...
saved me tons of hastle.... he put the new bushings, bearings in etc.... well worth the money.... eric, you can paypal me 10.00 for this shameless plug (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/tongue.gif) for real... it simply bolts up. he does all the hard stuff.... |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 31 2006, 07:03 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Eric is a cheat and a crook. (just saying that to offset Aarons lucious post and save myself $10 smackeroos) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t.gif)
Tom, I decided to offer that system for all the reasons you mentioned. If you have those tools or want to job the stuff out yourself you can save a few clams but it sounds like you've done the math. Let me know if you need me. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Jan 31 2006, 07:06 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
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i tried that. you never called back..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Eric_Shea |
Jan 31 2006, 07:09 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You're helping to 'Perpetuate' the myth (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/aaron.gif)
I got yelled at for that once! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) |
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| Tom |
Feb 1 2006, 03:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
Chris,
Don't really know what I'm going to do right now. The 5-lug rear hubs with the 5-lug front rotors sounds like a really nice way to go, but then I must get wheels and tires also. Almost forgot, would need 914-6 rear brake rotors too. Total expense is getting so big ,I may just get bushings and bearings and stay 4-lug for now. Eric, Thanks for the reply. How much would you charge to do my trailing arms but keeping the 4-lug hubs? I need the bushings , new bearings and the blast and paint. Thanks, Tom |
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| tat2dphreak |
Feb 1 2006, 04:05 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2006, 04:05 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
$275.00 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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| Tom |
Feb 1 2006, 04:20 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
Eric,
I think that will be my way to go for now. I will get back to you when I am ready to ship them to you. Thanks, Tom |
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| ChicagoChris |
Feb 1 2006, 04:24 PM
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It was jack-stand-tastic! Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 3-November 05 From: Chicago (burbs), IL Member No.: 5,062 |
The cost is to high?
You can re-drill the rear brake rotors in much the same way the hubs are re-drilled. I have been introduced to a different way (ie: more cost effective) way to upgrade the handling and keep the price of the front conversion in check. The difference maker is what you want out if the car. 1 just the 5-bolt? 2 5-bolt with better handling? 3 bigger brakes, better handling, and the 5-bolt? So what is it gonna’ be? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| Tom |
Feb 1 2006, 04:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,139 Joined: 21-August 05 From: Port Orchard, WA 98367 Member No.: 4,626 Region Association: None |
Chris,
Agree with what you are saying, but , I want to get the car on the road this spring and I have a limited budget. So , that being the deciding factor, I will go the less expensive way for now ,then make modifications to enhance handling later. By the way , I had a 70 1.7 back in the mid 70's that had fiberglass GT flares and had Pirelli CN36's (215 front/ 235 rear) that was an awsome handling car. Maybe later I will modify this one too, but for now I just want it on the road and running good. This is phase one! The only thing holding up phase two istime and $$$. Eric, Is the address on the PMB website the correct shipping address? May try to get these shipped this weekend. Are you looking at a couple of weeks to ship back? If so, that will be fine with my schedule. Tom |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2006, 05:30 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Yup... ship away.
Sounds like you've got the cost of wheels and tires factored in there. Wise. It can get pretty steep. |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 1 2006, 05:39 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) i smell another pillow fight! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/gayfight.gif) as for the original question, i'd have eric do all the hard work ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) btw. eric, i'll be contacting you shortly for some of your stuff as well ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy |
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| Mueller |
Feb 1 2006, 06:07 PM
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there is no way on Earth that converting to 5-lug can improve handleing...it's done for looks and wider range of rims.... you don't get bigger brakes with 5-lug until you install '84 or newer stuff and even then it's over rated for 90% of the 914 driving population..... |
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| SirAndy |
Feb 1 2006, 06:11 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
well, sort of. indirectly. 5-lug gives you access to a wider range of wheels, long wheel studs and spacers. thus, it's much easier with 5-lug to widen the track of your car, which, in return, can improve handling ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) Andy |
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| Eric_Shea |
Feb 1 2006, 06:13 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Daddy's not getting enough sleep. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| Aaron Cox |
Feb 1 2006, 06:36 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
i beg to differ. S calipers were available pre 73, (bigger, lighter thus "better") A calipers were around in 74...... SC and Carrera calipers etc..... post 84 stuff just got bigger...... thats all folks.... |
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| ChicagoChris |
Feb 1 2006, 08:11 PM
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It was jack-stand-tastic! Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 3-November 05 From: Chicago (burbs), IL Member No.: 5,062 |
Handling improvements…yes or no?
If you convert to the 911 stuff you get a bigger piston in the calipers and a bigger torsion bars. So yes you get both better braking and better handling. You also get the advantage of vented rotors so again you get better braking. If you go the route of re-drilling the front brakes to 5-bolt then no the changes won’t improve anything but the wheel options. |
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| Aaron Cox |
Feb 1 2006, 11:18 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
werd (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) |
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