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bd1308
post Feb 6 2006, 12:39 PM
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is teh amount of money one spends in the thousands getting a license, or high hundreds?

I thought I heard 600 for the course, but the guy didnt say, which leads me to believe I could be in thousands before I get a license.

I wish someday I could be a pilot, i think it would be really neat.

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post Feb 6 2006, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 6 2006, 11:39 AM)
is teh amount of money one spends in the thousands getting a license, or high hundreds?

I thought I heard 600 for the course, but the guy didnt say, which leads me to believe I could be in thousands before I get a license.

I wish someday I could be a pilot, i think it would be really neat.

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I've heard $1500 for a basic license, but that was a while back, and in CA. Find a club, they'll have planes for rent and instructors, and they'll be cheaper than commercial flight instruction companies.

If I ever do it I'll get an instrument license too. I hear statistically you're much safer with that training, even in clear skies.
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post Feb 6 2006, 12:52 PM
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You need at least 40 hours flying time and then some ground school...figure about $130 an hour: $5000 and higher...

Great stories by the way...
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post Feb 6 2006, 12:57 PM
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post Feb 6 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (meares @ Feb 6 2006, 07:08 AM)
you know, now that i think about it......i don't ever recall hearing a Fed Ex or UPS jet crashing....do y'all take better care of the jets than the commercial airlines?

Go to www.google.com enter FedEx crashes in the images section. You'll find plenty.
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post Feb 6 2006, 01:36 PM
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Teach out of RIU, just south east of Sacramento. Trust me when I say instuctors starve.
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post Feb 6 2006, 04:03 PM
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I first started flying in 1967. I worked as a flight instructor for 2 years. Hated most of it. Worked for 5 different companys after that, commuter airlines and cargo airlines that no longer exist. It took awhile to get here but I just started my 19th year at UPS. I have flown the 727, DC8, 747, and now the MD11. I have flown all over the world. Some of it interesting, some of it boring and some of it down right scary. I've had a good career but it does have it's down side. My son is 22 years old now and because of my schedule I have missed about half of his life. I would incourage anyone who wanted a flying career. It's an interesting and challenging way to make a living.
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post Feb 6 2006, 04:22 PM
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I'm an ASEL and fly an experimental that I built in '93. It's a Rans S-6 and is powered by a 2180 VW conversion. I fly just for fun and usually just go out and buzz the beach at about 10' AGL, but I have flown it to Tampa FL and Hayes KS from Atlantic CIty, NJ. (This is kinda' like riding a moped to cali !)


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post Feb 6 2006, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE (meares @ Feb 6 2006, 07:08 AM)
you know, now that i think about it......i don't ever recall hearing a Fed Ex or UPS jet crashing....do y'all take better care of the jets than the commercial airlines?

here's one that you can confirm...


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post Feb 6 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (Rotten Robby @ Feb 6 2006, 08:29 AM)
Actually there was a FedEx plane that went down at Mather here in Sacramento. I never did hear the investigation result but from the characteristics of the crash I would assume the load shifted.


I knew a member on the crash investigation team...final finding was the elevator flight tab control rod attach bolt was not keyed after maintenace, and came out, leaving the jet with only one elevator after takeoff. To make it simple, it had only one working elevator. not enough to keep the nose up on the heavy DC-8. It crashed in one of the salvage yards there, off the end of the runway. The load had not shifted before the crash.
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post Feb 6 2006, 06:30 PM
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I've never flown a plane before, however, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Does that count? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 6 2006, 07:22 PM
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Father was in the air force. I grew up hearing his flying stories. In college I learned to fly a Cessna 150 with an a&&hole former marine corps pilot instructor.

I quickly learned that it was much more fun fantasizing about flying as an 8 year old than actually doing it. It's a lot of work. Take offs were fun, but the pucker factor while landing wasn't fun at all.

Haven't flown in a long time. Might get back to it one of these days.
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post Feb 6 2006, 07:47 PM
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I dont have my pilot license, but I saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to GEICO ™
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post Feb 6 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Elliot Cannon @ Feb 6 2006, 02:03 PM)
It took awhile to get here but I just started my 19th year at UPS.

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You know, I'm 20 years old.......
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post Feb 6 2006, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 6 2006, 10:39 AM)
I wish someday I could be a pilot, i think it would be really neat.

Uh, I'll take the train... thanks.

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post Feb 6 2006, 08:27 PM
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Elliot had his MD11 rebuilt by FAT Performance..

And the lifters still are noisy.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

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post Feb 6 2006, 11:27 PM
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Hi Guys,
I am a Blackhawk helicopter pilot in the Air National Guard, before that I was on active duty in the Army flying Chinook helicopters (the big helicopter that looks like a flying bus)...in the past few years and recently I have flown in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait and Turkey...spent a few years in Germany and Korea also. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flag.gif)
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post Feb 6 2006, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Twystd1 @ Feb 6 2006, 07:27 PM)
Elliot had his MD11 rebuilt by FAT Performance..

And the lifters still are noisy.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

Twystd1

Thanks to you buddy, my noisy lifter problems are soon to be a thing of the past. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/pray.gif) I'm afraid even Fat Performance can't help that POS MD11!!!
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post Feb 7 2006, 12:13 AM
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post Feb 7 2006, 04:35 AM
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Meares , North Bay 914 , . . . re: your postings. Any crashes or off runway excursions by a FedEx jet , narrow body or wide body jet were not due to any maintenance error. They wereusually due to weather, improper procedures by flight crew etc.but not due to maintenance error or improper maintenance procedures.

Things like flying into the ground on final approach short of the runway I believe that happened in Florida, running off of the runway twice over in the Phillipenes , improper procedure/hard landing in MEM ( picture provided by North Bay 914 ) and others were not caused by faulty maintenance.

FedEx has a better reliabilityrecord thanthe passenger carrying outfits in the US and probably the world for that matter. They have for the most part really good pilots and excellent mechanics and have been doing it since 1974. Most of the accidents have occured in the feeder aircraft and not FedEx Express aircraft.

NOrth Bay 914 , in your reference to a crash in Sacramento at Mather (AFB ?) . When did that happen and are you sure it was a FedEx DC-8 and not maybe another airline ? Maybe it was a charter aircraft and not a FedEx aircraft. After the Flying Tiger merger , we had DC-8's for a short time and I don't remember loosing any DC-8's anywhere. That alleged finaly finding seems rather fishy/bogus to me . Are you sure it was even a DC-8 ?? That flight Tab control rod attach bolt should have nothing to do with the elevator not operating at all . Something ain't right with that info. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
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