Tranny question for Brad, Bill P. Envy Options

[wbergtho]

My friend (Randy Beck from Upland, CA) had a 914/6 all out race car running 320HP and never once blew his 901 up. He says that if you are really smooth and know how to drive...a 901 will take quite a beating with almost any 300-350 HP 911 flat six. These motors can produce pretty decent HP but not enough torque (what kills a trans) to blow a 901 up. If you beat the thing like a stupid high school kid....sure you'll blow it to smithereens!!!!!! If you have a torque monster motor...you may consider a 915...or a 930 box. If you have more money than sense...a nice inverted 12K G50/50 set up is killer. My point is this...If you have around 300 HP running a 3.2 or 3.6 and you blow your 901 up....YOU DID SOMETHING STUPID AND NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE MORE SMOOTHLY! (Rick Ollah runs a 928 motor through a 901)

Bill

[ppickerell]

Bill,
Thanks for the offer, but let Andy have it if he is anywhere close to ready. I will probably run my 4 for this season, but even that may not happen. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

[nine14cats]

Hi Patrick,

Sorry to hear you may not have the teener running this year.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif) I can relate.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)

Are you going to run one of your other P cars?

Hi Ken,

Yep...still have the 930 box...that's on another shelf.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/huh.gif)

Don't tell Doris..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif)

Bill P.

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QUOTE (wbergtho @ Feb 11 2006, 12:03 AM)

My friend (Randy Beck from Upland, CA) had a 914/6 all out race car running 320HP and never once blew his 901 up. He says that if you are really smooth and know how to drive...a 901 will take quite a beating with almost any 300-350 HP 911 flat six. These motors can produce pretty decent HP but not enough torque (what kills a trans) to blow a 901 up. If you beat the thing like a stupid high school kid....sure you'll blow it to smithereens!!!!!! If you have a torque monster motor...you may consider a 915...or a 930 box. If you have more money than sense...a nice inverted 12K G50/50 set up is killer. My point is this...If you have around 300 HP running a 3.2 or 3.6 and you blow your 901 up....YOU DID SOMETHING STUPID AND NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE MORE SMOOTHLY! (Rick Ollah runs a 928 motor through a 901) Bill

Must not be the same Randy Beck that I know. Years ago when the Randy I know drove a blue 914/6 (number 6) with a wing, he would regularly change out a gearbox during the weekend. I was once at Laguna Seca and I had a failure of my gearbox with the 3 liter. This was on the first session on Saturday so I was pretty bummed but Randy was there and had a spare box that he rented to me for the weekend - very nice of him. The box had a locker in it so I had lots of fun adjusting to the new technique of driving with a locker as opposed to a Quaife.
I now run a 3.4 liter and am stessing the gearbox pretty hard. Starting my second race season with this box - hope it lasts.

[wbergtho]

Is this the same Randy Beck we're talking about? I believe his number was 8. I was only relaying info that he has told me personally over the years. I've seen him race many times and have raced against him and i can say he is one of the best and smoothest drivers out there. His heart rate during a race is probably about 50 bpm. I think we are indeed talking about the same guy. His car was blue...with a wing and an aero tunnel through the hood (for extra zesty downforce...weeeeeeeee!) Anyway, hope your stuff holds together.

Bill

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QUOTE (wbergtho @ Feb 11 2006, 05:48 PM)

Is this the same Randy Beck we're talking about? I believe his number was 8. I was only relaying info that he has told me personally over the years. I've seen him race many times and have raced against him and i can say he is one of the best and smoothest drivers out there. His heart rate during a race is probably about 50 bpm. I think we are indeed talking about the same guy. His car was blue...with a wing and an aero tunnel through the hood (for extra zesty downforce...weeeeeeeee!) Anyway, hope your stuff holds together. Bill

Bill,
Yes, same guy. And I beileve that you are right that his number was 8 (not 6). He is a good driver and a good guy. The years that I raced with him I was running a 3 liter and he had a variety of different engines in his 914 - from 3.0 to 3.6 as I recall. Most races were with POC. He usually ran big slicks and obviously stressed his gearbox quite a bit with all of that power and the slicks. I do remenber more than one occassion when he changed out a box during the weekend - hence his habit of carrying along a spare (something that I have not yet done - but probably should). Last time that I saw Randy on the track was about two years ago at an HSR West race weekend at Willow Springs. Randy was there with one of his Lister replicas. Fast car but skinny tires so he was not able to corner all that well. Another fast 914 of that era (mid to late 90's) was Terry Ollila who ran a black and orange 914 with a 3.6 or possibly 3.8 in it.

Steve