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> SOT: Tow Vehicles, Here's what I'm looking at today.
Which would you prefer?
Which would you prefer?
Pre-Smog Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55 [ 26 ] ** [78.79%]
Early 90's Range Rover [ 7 ] ** [21.21%]
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post Feb 21 2006, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (McMark @ Feb 20 2006, 08:05 PM)
I'm kind of looking around for possible tow vehicles. I've been looking at new trucks since January, but I think the pricing just doesn't quite match with my financial situation. So now I'm looking at used options. It changes from day to day, but today I'm looking at two options:

1. Pre-Smog Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55
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If I got one of these it would be a running project. This would be more along the lines of a "who cares what it looks like it's a truck" line of thinking. They're selling for $3k - $5k and are worth $10k or more when they're restored. Definite value there.

2. Early 90's Range Rover
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I just today realized how cheaply these can be picked up. Luckily there is a Rover shop down the street from me, so I'll pick his brain tomorrow. These can be had for almost the same price $3.5k - $6k. Much more luxury and a nicer look, but parts are expensive and cars of this age tend to scare me that major things will start to go wrong as soon as I buy it. I'm not afraid of working on them, but if I buy something like this, I'm not looking for a project that I'm working on more than driving. Very very bad gas mileage. 13 MPG in town.


Any opinions on these two options? Any experiences?

hmmm how about an early Ford Bronco 4x4? my boss has his for sale. if interested i'll ask him about an asking price. Here's a similar picture of his ride, except his is two toned blue on top n tan on bottom IIRC:
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:12 PM
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D-Lo, I've always liked Broncos, but the other half has vetoed them. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

Jeff, I apprecite your insight and (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welcome.png)

I have a few contacts with Rovers for sale. The luxury aspect is high points for my woman. The "custom" aspect of the FJ is good for me. But I'm starting to think that to build the FJ to where I want it might be more project than I want right now.
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:22 PM
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:48 PM
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Early Broncos that are pre-smog are nice (nice and crude like the FJ) but way overpriced for a pile of moving rust. The next generation is not smog exempt and can barely move themselves around and suck gas like the tank has a hole in it.
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:50 PM
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If you get the Land Rover you need to learn to lift your pinky while you drink your tea. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (McMark @ Feb 21 2006, 04:12 PM)

Jeff, I apprecite your insight ... The luxury aspect is high points for my woman...  The "custom" aspect of the FJ is good for me.  But I'm starting to think that to build the FJ to where I want it might be more project than I want right now.


McMark,

Thank you for the warm welcome.

I fully understand, in that I originally purchased my 1993 LWB Rover for me. Needless to say that the wife now uses it as a daily driver with a 50 mile/day round trip, so I had to buy another set of wheels. It has been a very dependable truck since I purchased it, and she has put 85,000 miles on it.

Rover does a good job of combining the more refined features that mask the beefy frame and suspension. Put it on the rack and then look at something else and you will see what I mean.

I think you have the right approach in avoiding a project towing a project. Glad to hear you have help in case you pursue the Rover. Yell if I can help, because I will probably tap you and other teener pros as I try to put one in my garage.
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post Feb 21 2006, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Porcharu @ Feb 21 2006, 04:50 PM)
If you get the Land Rover you need to learn to lift your pinky while you drink your tea.


It counter balances my middle finger while I drink my beer.
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post Feb 21 2006, 07:34 PM
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I wouldn't get a Rover if I were you. I work with a consultant (not my choice) that used to be an engineer for Rover. He is an idiot.

Plus the 'yota looks cooler.
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post Feb 21 2006, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (Hoss @ Feb 21 2006, 04:59 PM)
QUOTE (Porcharu @ Feb 21 2006, 04:50 PM)
If you get the Land Rover you need to learn to lift your pinky while you drink your tea.


It counter balances my middle finger while I drink my beer.

LMAO! That's great! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif)

I also own a 95 Discovery and Hoss is right about the frame and suspension being really beefy. For being a solid axle front end it rides really nice too.
My only gripe is the mileage. The best I have ever seen on the freeway is 16mpg. I'm looking into doing a distributor and coil conversion now. Maybe some high flow cats from Summit.
Mark here is a good place to do research on Rovers. www.pirate4x4.com or www.discoweb.org
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post Feb 22 2006, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (Porcharu @ Feb 21 2006, 02:19 AM)
QUOTE (McMark @ Feb 20 2006, 08:05 PM)


1.  Pre-Smog Toyota Land Cruiser FJ55
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I want one of those with a Cummins 4BT. I saw one in a smaller landcruiser. Got over 30MPG plenty of power - loud as hell tho (think of a small FedEx truck) My friends dad had one like that with a stock 327 for cruising Baja he loved it.

I was just thinking - Cummins conversion!
If I ever buy the power wagon / M37 it will be a cummins deisel. Its a fantastic engine.

Zach
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post Feb 22 2006, 10:24 AM
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JEEP GRANWAGONEER! you know the old one with the wood on the side, anyone got a pic It has caracter, power,I cant belive no one has mentioned one.I had one that was abused but the motor and trany was SOLID! Pull better than my suburban or F150
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post Feb 22 2006, 10:28 AM
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Rovers Blow.
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post Feb 22 2006, 01:09 PM
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I just finished reading though this monumental restoration over on a site called IH8MUD.com. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) 62 pages and it took me three days to finish reading it all (I skipped ahead once they got to the paint preparation, cause that's boring). Needless to say I've flip flopped again and am thinking again how cool it would be to tow with an FJ. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

This is going to be a tough decision. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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post Feb 22 2006, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE (Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Feb 20 2006, 08:12 PM)

Can you say Lucas Electrics? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Only if you can cure the problems with my BOSCH electrics.

I'd go for the Toyota. Range-rovers have air suspension, which is technically pretty cool, but probably expensive to fix or get parts for, and it's probably not going to be terribly reliable. It's not just the electrics - the build quality of british cars at the time was not terribly good - as is reflected in the price.

In the pure opinion department - the toyota is more interesting looking too.
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post Feb 22 2006, 03:56 PM
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how about one of these:


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Get a used Unimog. This one has a viewing platform so you can watch the action (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)


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Mmmmmmmmmm G-Wagon


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Mmmmmmmmmm G-Wagon

I like the older versions that were for military use and not for Rap-Star Hi-Jinks. Bonus points if its badged as a PUCH.
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Here is mine..

11,000 pounds towing capacity

1 Ton of hauling capability

No Radiator

4X4 with locking diffs....

Voted the "Ballsiest 4X4 of all time" by Rolling Stone magazine!

The Steyr-Puch Pinzgauer!

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Hell, we even have Nickies for them now and EFI- Mine is going to 3.3 Liters over the summer!

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everything else is just a radiator laden, toy. (except a Uni-Mog) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

BTW- I'm importing a couple of Gelandewagens like pictured above this summer. One for me and one for my Dad (Both are diesel) if anyone wants a G wagen let me know and we can get them in the container for cheaper shipping from Austria.
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