Parade AX revisited, redundancy is gud Options

[J P Stein]

I'm gonna post this again for those who may have missed it. Time grows short.

A bit of info:
Registration begining March 10 here: http://www.pca.org/parade/2006/
I may be mistaken, but to register, you have to log on here: http://www.pca.org/news/pcr.html

Now listen up, you cannot sign onto the PCA site and register on the same day. You need to get the sign on done before the 10th.
You need to have your PCA membership current.
You *need* to register that first day....the 10th.....`

I've been told that the Parade seldom sells out..... Hershey
was an exception. JIC, if you wanna go, get signed up that first day.

Be sure to plan on staying over for the track/AX stuff on Saturday following the Parade.

The Parade AX course will be about 25-30 sec in the Pro
Pits, exiting onto the main straight about 200 yards from the chicane, 360 deg around the chaicane, then your off to the
back stretch of turns 4 thru 8.....with just a few cones to ruin the racin' line (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

Track map here: http://www.portlandraceway.com/

[DNHunt]

I'm planning on it. Re-upped my membership but, I haven't got my card yet so I can't log in to PCA

I probably will come down for Sat and stay over for the AX Sun. I might see if I can get out of work Fri too.

Any suggestions on where to stay.

Dave

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (DNHunt @ Mar 4 2006, 06:32 AM)

I'm planning on it. Re-upped my membership but, I haven't got my card yet so I can't log in to PCA I probably will come down for Sat and stay over for the AX Sun. I might see if I can get out of work Fri too. Any suggestions on where to stay. Dave

Humm....(insert a haid scratchie here).

The Parade AX is on a Wednesday & Thursday....9th & 10th
of August.

The after Parade AX is on Saturday the 12th.....and in the pro pits.....PCA DE on the track that day also. Parade attendees will get first crack on registration at the 12th AX.....JIC
we get over our limit of 100 drivers....which I kinda doubt.
In fact if there's room, I'll invite some SCCA hot dogs to come play. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[DNHunt]

Well, maybe I'll take some vacation then. Guess I should have checked the PCA website first. I still have a few days left if my 2 bosses go for it. #1 boss = wife, #2 boss = receptionist. Being self employed is a lie.

Dave

[Porsche Rescue]

Ok JP, now to complicate matters. I am guessing that we need to "class" our cars when we register online on the 10th. For those who haven't spent hours with the "2006
Complete PCR's" (39 pages, found located in your second link above) this could be difficult.
Probably should figure that out now.

Am I correct in assuming that I (and anyone else with a six conversion) must run "modified" with the big dogs, like you? Suspect Dave's car will not be so simple, but maybe he is modified too. How about some advice?

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Mar 4 2006, 09:06 AM)

Ok JP, now to complicate matters. I am guessing that we need to "class" our cars when we register online on the 10th. For those who haven't spent hours with the "2006 Complete PCR's" (39 pages, found located in your second link above) this could be difficult. Probably should figure that out now. Am I correct in assuming that I (and anyone else with a six conversion) must run "modified" with the big dogs, like you? Suspect Dave's car will not be so simple, but maybe he is modified too. How about some advice?

I'm not sure about the classing at this time.
In the past, the PCA has mailed "packets" out to the attendees that need to be filled out for each competition that you're entering.
My understanding now is that this will be done via the Web....after they notify you that you're "in". I don't have any details as yet, so (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

You can go to the PCA web site and dig out the PCRs and figure your class at any time, tho. A link is right on the front page.

I have a printed copy and after reading them with your car in mind....my advice? Bend over, put your head between your legs & kiss your ass goodbye (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[Porsche Rescue]

M4 huh? No trophy in my future. The real challenge, can I avoid last in class. Probably not.

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Mar 4 2006, 12:52 PM)

M4 huh? No trophy in my future. The real challenge, can I avoid last in class. Probably not.

Well, I dunno.........

There is a line under "engine"( A-2.5.6.1 e) in the Improved section that says:
"Any engine is permited in any automobile provided it came from that same serise of automobile"

I think that means that any 911 can run anything up to a 3.2L and you can't (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) ....but I've been wrong before.

[Porsche Rescue]

Don't think I could convince anybody that my 2.7 "came from" a 914. Oh well, my car looks fast. Need to start coming up with excuses for the driver.

[DNHunt]

Maybe I look at this a different way. I just want to do the best I can. I really don't care what class I run. I'll win if there are enough DNFs. Everytime I run I want to do a little better. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. Not much talent but, plenty of effort. Truth is the car probably will always be the better part of the team but I'm gaining on it.

Dave

[sixnotfour]

Say its a 2.4 aka 916, give yourself a fighting chance

[anthony]

QUOTE

Maybe I look at this a different way. I just want to do the best I can.

That's the way I look at it. Unless you build your car for a certain class there's no way to "win".

[J P Stein]

I understand they put a few 2.7L R spec engines in the 916.....but therein lies the rub....916, not 914.
914s are listed as 914/4 & 914/6...no 916.
Picky suckers......

[sixnotfour]

ya parade autocross , saw a guy protest rolled fenders on a guy's car, funny thing is his fenders were rolled also (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

[Porsche Rescue]

Seriously, I could not care less about where I finish. My only point in raising the issue was to alert people that they may need to know the correct class for their car when they register. March 10 may be a little late to try to figure it out. However, I don't suppose anyone will protest a car that finishes last!

[sixnotfour]

QUOTE

Seriously, I could not care less about where I finish. My only point in raising the issue was to alert people that they may need to know the correct class for their car when they register. March 10 may be a little late to try to figure it out. However, I don't suppose anyone will protest a car that finishes last!

That was my view ,but inspector detector found a hairline crack. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (sixnotfour @ Mar 4 2006, 09:54 PM)

QUOTE Seriously, I could not care less about where I finish. My only point in raising the issue was to alert people that they may need to know the correct class for their car when they register. March 10 may be a little late to try to figure it out. However, I don't suppose anyone will protest a car that finishes last! That was my view ,but inspector detector found a hairline crack. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

That was never my view so I don't have any adjustments to make. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

There are 42 (count em') classes at the Parade. Double that including the Ladies classes. Large classes have trophies 6 deep or more....

Semi-stock 914/4s (all) would be in Production 2.....914/6 in
P6

Not so stock (RTFRB) 914/4 would be in Improved 1.
It looks to me as if your motor has been expanded over the allowable 1mm over bore.....go play with the big dogs.

It looks to me as if any well set up street car has a shot in either of these classes. The driver will tell......oh, btw, only the first 3 runs count.

[DNHunt]

JP

Suppose I go take my ass kickin in Improved 1 on Thursday and don't complain can I come run Saturday with a second driver or do both of us have to get our asses kicked?

It seems to me the carrot is the Saturday AX. I'm sure I'd enjoy hanging around the Parade AX but, I'd just be a field filler at best.

Dave

[J P Stein]

QUOTE (DNHunt @ Mar 5 2006, 05:55 AM)

JP Suppose I go take my ass kickin in Improved 1 on Thursday and don't complain can I come run Saturday with a second driver or do both of us have to get our asses kicked? It seems to me the carrot is the Saturday AX. I'm sure I'd enjoy hanging around the Parade AX but, I'd just be a field filler at best. Dave

Heh....
PCA (SCCA) have a line in their rules that is similar
to: Anything not specifically allowed is prohibited.
Once you gots that in your haid, it's time to read the rule book.
I don't see increased engine size in Improved.
Welcome to Mod 2....but have no fear, it'll be just as easy to get your ass kicked there (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

We field fillers can still have fun. The Parade AX is gonna be unique. You'll have the backstreach of PIR all to your self....with plenty of run off room (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

Frankly, the Saturday AX (&DE)is an attempt by the local club to capture some funds from the Parade bunch. Parade attendees
will have first dibs on spots in that AX. We figure we can handle 100 drivers. The course will be more technical than the Parade course (which will be simple.....but fast)....one of our typical Pro Pits, chop & hack 50-60- sec, 2nd gear jobbies. Hopefully 5 runs all of which will count.....for those who aren't used to pressure. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[DNHunt]

Ok

I guess I'll read the rules. Time to download the PDF.