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914 vs. RX-7, AutoX not drag |
bd1308 |
Mar 6 2006, 05:37 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
87 or 89 2nd Gen "7"
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Mueller |
Mar 6 2006, 06:24 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
both of you guys could get your @ss handed to you by a good driver in a Yugo if you 2 cannot drive....
I'd say go to a go-kart track and see who is the better driver 1st...... |
lapuwali |
Mar 6 2006, 06:25 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
You'll smoke him. The 2nd gen cars are heavy, and only have average handling. The turbo doesn't spool all that fast, either. They're not very good AX cars. It's possible to hustle them around, but they don't like it much.
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twdevoe |
Mar 6 2006, 06:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 13-February 06 From: Savannah, Georgia Member No.: 5,577 |
I auto crossed my 914 many years in CSP. i always ran the BFG R1's. And there was no 13b's that could come close, just watch the tail swing and you'll do fine. autocross is more finess than brute force. My money's on the 914
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DanT |
Mar 6 2006, 06:52 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Well said Mike....nuff said. I smell something....it smells like BS (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) |
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Trekkor |
Mar 6 2006, 07:14 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
This is better than TV (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
And the subliminal font...Hilarious. I just wish I was close by so I could dust the both of you (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif) Hahhh!! KT |
ConeDodger |
Mar 6 2006, 07:52 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,604 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
I have autocrossed both of these. I had a 12a first gen RX7 which was a very good AX car. It had a nice flat torque curve that fit right in most courses. The 13B with a turbo is kind of an unknown quantity. Having a turbo kick in just as you need to brake can be more than a little disconcerting. I am not aware of how much different the first generation was from the second. Frankly, it was so ugly that Mazda lost me as a customer even though I had bought two first generation cars.
The RX7 has the power but the 914 has the handling. But Mueller and many others are exactly right. What really matters in an AX are just a couple of things Number 1 is the driver. Number 2 are the tires. Both of you need to tighten the nut behind the wheel before you get out the pinks. Go to any AX and run your car. Find your best time and then find the fastest time of day on street tires. Offer the guy your car for one run and he will beat your time dramatically. Sometimes by as much as 2 seconds. It happens every time. The driver is what matters. Your job is to BE THE DRIVER. Become the guy who can get in anything and make it fast. |
ConeDodger |
Mar 6 2006, 07:54 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,604 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Laughter is appropriate from the guy who has improved so dramatically over the last couple of years. Trekkor has become the driver who can outdrive you in your own car. |
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D'Fuzz |
Mar 6 2006, 08:33 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 6-March 06 From: Regina, SK Member No.: 5,679 |
The guy in our local club that consistantly get FTD drives a base model 1995 Neon, with no front or rear sway bars. He runs r-compounds on the car but he regularly beats WRX's, C5's, etc. The guy is just a scary good driver. It would amazing to see what he could do with a better car.
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Bleyseng |
Mar 6 2006, 08:52 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Sorry, I'll spell it out "The turbo2 RX7 is a pig to drive on a AX course"
A 1.7 914 will beat its times! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) |
Joe Ricard |
Mar 6 2006, 10:13 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
I don't know what Gen is the RX-7 ? 2nd generation cars go straight to street prepared as they came off the show room.
Uh Britt and a progresive 2 barrel? Shit don't matter how good you are. unless Britt gets a clean run and the RX-7 collects a cone everytime. RX-7 1 gen will hand you your ass. and anything newer than that DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. |
bd1308 |
Mar 7 2006, 08:00 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
went to L-jet..I'm getting 200 bucks for my progressive carb.
good riddance. b |
Bleyseng |
Mar 7 2006, 08:15 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,035 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
This is a 2nd Gen Turbo2 RX7. Had 350 rear wheel hp but doesn't turn for shit!
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