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Biting the bullet - bringing on the 5 lug |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 11:57 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Biting the bullet to go five lug. Headed down to the shop to figure out wheel spacing/size today. I will be using 3 piece BBS wheels. Going to go with racing slicks too.
Starting my GT conversion today fenders, rocker panels, the works. I'm planning to go all Olympic Blue paint with smooth top. While Olympic Blue wasnt the same color as the Porsche Gulf cars I'm thinking of doing similar orange stripe. This should be fun! I'm a goner now! While this car wont be the fastest or the sexiest conversion it should prove to be a good platform for me to learn from. |
Mueller |
Mar 13 2006, 12:03 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
which BBS wheels? a "modern" style???
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Joe Ricard |
Mar 13 2006, 12:03 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Cool, and I bet all ya'll thought I was a nut.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) So Grant when are you going to come out here and race me? YPAF |
jhadler |
Mar 13 2006, 12:09 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Grant,
PM sent... -Josh2 |
nine14cats |
Mar 13 2006, 12:19 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Geez Grant....you're as bad as I am......WELCOME! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif)
It's been lonely here by myself (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) You're going to need to take most of the camber out of your car once you go slicks, so you're committed as far as that goes. Hoosiers take some negative (small amount) but Goodyear's pretty much go zero or very close. I'm talking bias-ply here. If you're going radial slicks...I'm not familiar with them. Can't wait to see the car out there! Bill P. |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 02:39 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Its a true sickness. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I take a hit and then say whoa did I really do that? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) My car currently sits at about -1.5 degrees of camber front and rear - so where do I need to go with Good Year slicks? I may back off and go DOT route, but I want a snowballs chance to get close to the times of the real fast cars now that I'm penailizing myself with wide rims. |
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brant |
Mar 13 2006, 02:46 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,623 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Most (not all) slicks need around 0 camber to be optimum
most DOT tires need around -3degree's to be optimum (when you gonna get me some Weight numbers?) brant |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 02:49 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Whatever they call that crisscross honeycomb like pattern? Looks fairly modern. Building a set of the widest 16" wheels that will fit under my GT fenders. They will have black centers. |
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Mueller |
Mar 13 2006, 02:54 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
check tire avail. first.....I got rid of my 16x9's due to piss poor DOT selection..... |
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nine14cats |
Mar 13 2006, 03:29 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Grant,
If you are still going to run the car on the street it is my opinion that you will have run Dot-R's. You won't be able to utilize the contact patch of the slicks if you don't go basically to zero camber as Brant points out. That being said, slicks can sure get sticky at the right temperature and with the right surface. Here I am at Marina in 2003 running Goodyear 23x9x15 cantilever slicks in the R210 compound (no longer available) They only have R250 compound as the softest tire now. I was able to get the car up on two wheels. I'd say they stick pretty well.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Bill P. Attached image(s) |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 03:35 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
I was a course worker at Marina when you did that in 2003 - It was my first AX as a driver. I had never seen a 914 get on two wheels before! |
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Joe Ricard |
Mar 13 2006, 03:54 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Thats frigging NUTS.
Pretty cool but NUTS. |
race914 |
Mar 13 2006, 04:10 PM
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Excellent choice on your color combination! Not that I'm biased or anything (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) |
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racerx7 |
Mar 13 2006, 05:07 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 119 Joined: 28-January 06 From: Belmont, CA 94002 Member No.: 5,489 |
Is that 914 on two wheels from just turning? ( not hitting bump, curb, etc...)? I |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 05:19 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Yes! no bump. He flew into the corner sideways and the tires gripped suddenly and threw the car up on two wheels. It was wild! |
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nine14cats |
Mar 13 2006, 05:36 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Yep, no bumps...just smooth sticky concrete! I was running a quick pace into the hairpin, would let up on the brakes before turning to maintain momentum, then toss the car right and tap the brakes to start rotation of the car. The as the tail started to come around I would give her gas and the fat slicks would hook up, and I'd slingshot out of the hairpin maintaining decent speed, which I could use on the corresponding straight that followed.
Problem was that once I carried the most speed of the day into the hairpin, the slicks didn't break loose, they just stuck!...Voila....a little two wheel action. It was fun watching the whole side of the passenger door sill come up in my peripheral vision. I just moved the steering wheel slightly to the left to drop the car back down and floored it. Grant, My vote is go with the slicks.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/happy11.gif) Once you go slicks, you never go back...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) Bill P. |
grantsfo |
Mar 13 2006, 06:17 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Yes I have seen how much better they stick watching you, Andrew, Steve, Andy, etc. |
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jhadler |
Mar 13 2006, 06:19 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
You will find that they drive quite differently than DOT tires. The cool thing I always love about slicks is the rediculously large slip angles that they can work at. It may feel like you're sliding, but you're still gripping hard.
Too much fun... -Josh2 |
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