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| hybridhunter |
 Mar 15 2006, 09:05 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 11-March 06 From: IN, NC Member No.: 5,705  |
first off HI EVERYONE! I'm new to this board (except for a post on the classifieds (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)), and new to teh 914 - I'm looking at picking up a roller as a project car i'll probably never finish. OK, Dont (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) me, but i've got some newb type questions -
Is there a method (year, engine, trim pkg?) to the differences between 914 body/trim? specifically: painted/vinyl sail panels, presence/absence of the little round side markers, complete wrap around/no-middle-section taillights, etc. Were there changes to suspenion/brake setups through the years? (i'll assume spring rates change with engine mass) Any model year to stay away from? I just want to figure out exactly what i want and do my proper research before i lay down the cash on the car. THANKS for any input! |
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| davep |
Mar 15 2006, 09:24 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,138 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada  |
Painted vs vinyl sails: appearance group had the vinyl
Side marker lights: North America had them, Europe did not Tail-lights: the Porsche reflector was aftermarket not factory Suspension: 914/6 = 5 bolt, 914/4 = 4 bolt Brakes: 914/4 early through 1972 late followed, not too big of a difference Springs: really no change to worry about Cars to avoid: any with major rust damage, especially the hell-hole under the battery tray, also any with major collision damage Cars to find: probably the most expensive you can manage, it will likely be cheaper in the long run |
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| swl |
Mar 15 2006, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
I'll have a stab at a bit of this. Not a real expert but here goes:
Trim levels. Most differences were trim level options. vinyl sail panels were the most visible. There were a few thousand that came to this side of the pond with vinyl on the A pillar as well - early 73 Only really visible differences amongst the years (I'll probably get corrected here) were the bumpers. early were just chrome. Then front bumperettes (73?) then front and rear bumperettes. Then the big rubber bumpers. Some differences between north american and european versions - side markers. Different front and rear lenses. Other really visible differences are aftermarket - like the center reflector on the rear, valences, front and rear, spoilers ... The holy grail of the model years is the 73 2.0 Later variants got smogged to death. 1.7 and 1.8 in stock form are pretty weak. |
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| swl |
Mar 15 2006, 09:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
just to clarify - by weak I mean low horsepower. In terms of reliability they are great. |
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| tat2dphreak |
Mar 15 2006, 09:40 PM
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stoya, stoya, stoya Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,797 Joined: 6-June 03 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 792 Region Association: Southwest Region |
no, the holy grail is the 916...
or any original 6 in great shape... then the 73-74 2.0... |
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| swl |
Mar 15 2006, 09:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,409 Joined: 7-August 05 From: Kingston,On,Canada Member No.: 4,550 Region Association: Canada |
Too true. My mind was in type IV land.
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| hybridhunter |
Mar 15 2006, 10:07 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 11-March 06 From: IN, NC Member No.: 5,705 |
So is there nothing under the vinyl but the standard sail? i mean if i wanted just a painted sail panel, i could just pull the vinyl off when i get to the paint-prep stage?
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| Allan |
Mar 15 2006, 10:10 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Yep... |
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| LowGT |
Mar 15 2006, 11:04 PM
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1.8 and Proud! Group: Members Posts: 583 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Wylie, TX Member No.: 4,904 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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| Borderline |
Mar 15 2006, 11:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 720 Joined: 8-February 05 From: San Juan Bautista, CA Member No.: 3,577 Region Association: Northern California |
The transaxle changes from tail shifter to side shifter in '73. I found this out after buying my '72. The tailshifter has way too much monkey motion in the linkage. I wish I had known that before I bought. I'm in the process of changing over right now. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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| Dead Air |
Mar 15 2006, 11:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 2,042 |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) [QUOTE] |
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| Rusty |
Mar 16 2006, 02:44 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch
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Have you read the 914 FAQ? It's probably the best single-page document available about the 914.
It was written by Dave Darling... a member here (and many other places). http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/9...Darling_FAQ.htm |
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| jr91472 |
Mar 16 2006, 05:04 AM
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"I'm pacing myself sergeant..." Group: Members Posts: 1,205 Joined: 2-August 04 From: McKinney, TX Member No.: 2,437 |
Another good source is: "How to Restore & Modify your Porsche 914 and 914/6" by Patrick Paternie.
It isn't the end all of 914 books, but it definitely provides a great run down on the production / feature changes made over the years. It will also give you a good headstart on some of the potential projects you can look forward to..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) Really good book....check Amazon, etc. Good luck and enjoy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif) |
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| mrdezyne |
Mar 16 2006, 09:49 AM
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Now on larger rolling jack stands! Group: Members Posts: 468 Joined: 31-July 05 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,510 |
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Before you spend a dime on a potential money pit, buy these two books and study up. As stated above, "How to Modify and Restore your 914" will give you lots of good photos and how too's for fixing problems and making it better than stock. The second book here is a great source for identifying different options and quirks by year and model. Both are required reading for newbies IMHO.... they continue to help me out with my build. Attached image(s) 
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| hybridhunter |
Mar 16 2006, 10:07 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 11-March 06 From: IN, NC Member No.: 5,705 |
THANKS everyone!
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| davep |
Mar 16 2006, 11:09 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,138 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Not exactly. On many cars with vinyl the sails were not fully painted underneath. Also you will need to fill the holes for the clips that held the trim. That area is very prone to rust due to a plug of expanding foam used underneath the panel that tended to trap moisture causing it to rust from the inside out. |
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| tdgray |
Mar 16 2006, 11:57 AM
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Thank God Nemo is not here to see this Group: Members Posts: 9,705 Joined: 5-August 03 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 984 Region Association: None |
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| hybridhunter |
Mar 16 2006, 07:11 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 11-March 06 From: IN, NC Member No.: 5,705 |
Amazon has a bunch of REALLY negative reviews of that book... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif) |
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| seanery |
Mar 16 2006, 07:20 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,852 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welcome.png) Oh, we're a damn bunch of cynics, if it's 914 related we'll tear it apart (that's why we're good for pre-purchase inpsections!) so we probably tore the book apart one day just for kicks! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t1.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/w00t2.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/Jumpy.gif) |
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| Air_Cooled_Nut |
Mar 16 2006, 07:29 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I have it and I like it. I'll have to get the other two books pictured above. |
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