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> seam welding and rear suspension strengthening, What to do, What I did...
Andyrew
post Mar 22 2006, 01:55 AM
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So my project for a stronger chassis has begun.

Heres were Im at right now. Took the suspension out today.

I'll go do some welding and prep tonight, hit the bed, see what you guys say, and do some more welding tomorrow.

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-003.JPG)
Picture of some buckling of the suspension. Other side has a raised area, but is generally flat, this side has raised and concave area's. I'll be adding something here for strenthening, a tube? A flat piece of metal? A triangle?

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Here is some area's im going to weld, any two pieces joined together I will stitch weld.
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post Mar 22 2006, 01:55 AM
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(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-007.JPG)

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fiberglass.. random pic.

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engine mount lower right.

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Some of the engine mount metal will be welded as well, possibly some reinforcement as well.
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post Mar 22 2006, 01:55 AM
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(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-012.JPG)
Picture of what I believe to be ovaled ear hole.
Will post another thread on that... That bolt always comes loose, after just a short drive..

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Big picture.. Please, Someone (brad?) give me a green line where to seam weld, a red box where to add metal, a blue line where to tube...




(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-018.JPG)
rear susp setup. ignore blue paint and spacers..

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Car as it looked bout noon. 255's up front, fit guud.

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Gettin the body lines right..

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More body lines
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post Mar 22 2006, 01:56 AM
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(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-026.JPG)
And more..

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-027.JPG)
The welder... (tim allen grunt) Lincoln 135 made the cart myself.

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-028.JPG)
Start of the engman kit. left side DONE

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-029.JPG)
rear

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Ass bigger than my gi nevermind.

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-031.JPG)
dont tell me im beautiful.

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Front susp... DONE, OUT

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-033.JPG)
YES

(IMG:http://www.teamgracer.com/cars/914club/914v8/914-8%20suspension-034.JPG)
Few K's into suspension and brakes doesnt hurt a v8..

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post Mar 22 2006, 01:58 AM
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Oh ya, it takes,

11mm 13mmx2 15mm 17mm 19mm 3/4 sockets 7/8's socket
Impact wrench 8mm allen (I think) 6mm star allen (cv) pliers, and a couple screwdrivers to take it all out.
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post Mar 22 2006, 03:29 AM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 21 2006, 11:55 PM)
Please, Someone (brad?) give me a green line where to seam weld, a red box where to add metal, a blue line where to tube...

here you go ...

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post Mar 22 2006, 03:34 AM
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:45 AM
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Andrew,
The "buckling" you noted is nothing but a little wrinkling from the metal stamping process when the parts were originally manufactured. It isn't from any stress during operation of the vehicle. I wish I had a chassis as nice as yours.
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Mar 22 2006, 04:29 AM)
QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 21 2006, 11:55 PM)
Please, Someone (brad?) give me a green line where to seam weld, a red box where to add metal, a blue line where to tube...

here you go ...

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post Mar 22 2006, 09:21 AM
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no need to weld, just use bondo


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post Mar 22 2006, 09:46 AM
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so the buckling of the suspension, is that a common thing? Only with bigger engines in there?


please educate me, I am paranoid about old cars and failing suspensions
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post Mar 22 2006, 09:53 AM
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Andrew,

Sorry for the hijack, but when did you switch to the fiberglass fenders? All that panel beating was wasted? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Can you give me some specifics on the panels you used, or a link to an old thread?

It's looking good! Decided on a colour yet? Will it be ready for WCC06? I'm hoping for another ride.
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post Mar 22 2006, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Racer Chris @ Mar 22 2006, 04:45 AM)
Andrew,
The "buckling" you noted is nothing but a little wrinkling from the metal stamping process when the parts were originally manufactured.  It isn't from any stress during operation of the vehicle.  I wish I had a chassis as nice as yours.

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Looks like forming wrinkles. Same stuff people are seeing on AA flares.

And your hole doesn't look oval. Could be oversize, but I doubt it. It looks too round. BUT, I can't explain why it's coming loose. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) Maybe you just need to work out? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/poke.gif)
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post Mar 22 2006, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (mike_the_man @ Mar 22 2006, 07:53 AM)
Andrew,

Sorry for the hijack, but when did you switch to the fiberglass fenders? All that panel beating was wasted? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) Can you give me some specifics on the panels you used, or a link to an old thread?

It's looking good! Decided on a colour yet? Will it be ready for WCC06? I'm hoping for another ride.

I emailed and asked the same question. They look like Bontempi flares but not sure. They look sweet regardless...
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post Mar 22 2006, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (riverman @ Mar 22 2006, 05:48 AM)
QUOTE (SirAndy @ Mar 22 2006, 04:29 AM)
QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 21 2006, 11:55 PM)
Please, Someone (brad?) give me a green line where to seam weld, a red box where to add metal, a blue line where to tube...

here you go ...

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rofl ahndy.....
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post Mar 22 2006, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (Andyrew @ Mar 22 2006, 02:55 AM)
Picture of what I believe to be ovaled ear hole.
Will post another thread on that... That bolt always comes loose, after just a short drive..

Tighten up your hole.
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I would like to Nominate Andy's post/Drawing as the Post of the YEAR, if not the Decade!!!
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Geez andy, I had metal all rolled, tubes formed, and was ready to start welding when I saw the mueba
I'll take it as a joke... lol

Chris, Thanks! Chassis is rust free on that side, hell holl had a little problem which I fixed a long time ago. Poorly, but I fixed it... I'll take it as it came from the factory like that, but I think I might strenthen it anyways...

Drewvw, buckling is not common, Chassis cracking only happens when you start putting bigger sticky tires, and more hp through the car and big rate springs..

I had in my possetion my f/g flares before the wcc 05. I knew I would never get my flares to be wide enough or perfect enough to paint. Currently they need to house 285 35 18's on the back.. No way my hand made flares could do that. The flares are Rich Bontempi HPH flares front and rear. I do like them alot.

Sparky, lets not go there.
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Heres a possibility.


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Here's what I worked out for the outer console reinforcement.


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