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> OUCH, Horrific wreck @ homestead
Joe Ricard
post Mar 26 2006, 12:06 PM
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Anybody catch the dealy wreck? Just saw it on Speed news. hit the wall slid down the track and then T-boned by another car doing 176 miles an hour.
Racing loses another talented driver.
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post Mar 26 2006, 12:12 PM
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Was that the ROLEX series race yesterday? I watched last nite but didn't see that?
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post Mar 26 2006, 12:14 PM
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IRL practice just about an hour ago.
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post Mar 26 2006, 12:16 PM
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Just saw the replay on speed.....horrible crash. Reminds everyone that it is still a potentially deadly sport. While talking with Brian Redman yesterday, there were 3 or 4 times that he should of died from crashes and actually quit after the Targa Floria crash...but he went back to it!(addicted to speed). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
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post Mar 26 2006, 01:31 PM
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IRL driver Paul Dana in fatal crash


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post Mar 26 2006, 01:38 PM
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just saw it at a rennlist lunch meet...its sad
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post Mar 26 2006, 04:51 PM
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Here it is on tape

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/indycar_dri...ar_26_2006.html
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post Mar 26 2006, 06:38 PM
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With all of the spotters and flashing yellow lights why was the guy still going 176mph by telemetry when he hit the disabled car....don't those things have brakes? Too bad for the dead guy. I guess it really is better to be the hammer than the nail.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post Mar 26 2006, 06:41 PM
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The other drivers on the track saw it and slowed down, he must not have been paying attention, So sad. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)
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post Mar 26 2006, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (jimtab @ Mar 26 2006, 04:38 PM)
With all of the spotters and flashing yellow lights why was the guy still going 176mph by telemetry when he hit the disabled car....don't those things have brakes? Too bad for the dead guy. I guess it really is better to be the hammer than the nail.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

Jim,

The way I read this you are saying it's better to be the car moving fast than it is to be the stationary one. However, wasn't Dana (the one killed) driving the car doing 176 mph? If so, that would be opposite of the "better to be the hammer than the nail" no?
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post Mar 26 2006, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE (jimtab @ Mar 26 2006, 04:38 PM)
With all of the spotters and flashing yellow lights why was the guy still going 176mph by telemetry when he hit the disabled car....

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It really is tragic to lose another driver...
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post Mar 27 2006, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (soloracer @ Mar 26 2006, 05:00 PM)
QUOTE (jimtab @ Mar 26 2006, 04:38 PM)
With all of the spotters and flashing yellow lights why was the guy still going 176mph by telemetry when he hit the disabled car....don't those things have brakes?  Too bad for the dead guy.  I guess it really is better to be the hammer than the nail.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

Jim,

The way I read this you are saying it's better to be the car moving fast than it is to be the stationary one. However, wasn't Dana (the one killed) driving the car doing 176 mph? If so, that would be opposite of the "better to be the hammer than the nail" no?

No, Dana spun and the other guy hit him at 176mph
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post Mar 27 2006, 12:16 AM
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Jim I just reread the report and it says Carpenter hit the wall, came down the track and was hit in the rear by Dana. I also watched the video, same outcome.
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post Mar 27 2006, 01:34 AM
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its hard to tell but i think dana caught the engine package about head high. sad, and makes me sick. i feel bad for his family, but i'd rather go doing some thing that i love doing than rotting from some disease or taken out by a blue hair runnig a red light.
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post Mar 27 2006, 02:23 AM
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QUOTE (messix @ Mar 26 2006, 11:34 PM)
its hard to tell but i think dana caught the engine package about head high. sad, and makes me sick. i feel bad for his family, but i'd rather go doing some thing that i love doing than rotting from some disease or taken out by a blue hair runnig a red light.

Roger that.

Did you see the sparks fly from the e-brake being pulled before the collision? That was neat. But it happens fast, so watch carefully. Blue car does it.
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post Mar 27 2006, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 27 2006, 01:23 AM)
QUOTE (messix @ Mar 26 2006, 11:34 PM)
its hard to tell but i think dana caught the engine package about head high. sad, and makes me sick. i feel bad for his family, but i'd rather go doing some thing that i love doing than rotting from some disease or taken out by a blue hair runnig a red light.

Roger that.

Did you see the sparks fly from the e-brake being pulled before the collision? That was neat. But it happens fast, so watch carefully. Blue car does it.

uuuummmmm i did'nt know irl open wheel race cars had e-brakes. can't imagine a need for an EMERGENCEY HAND BRAKE on a race car!!!!!

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post Mar 27 2006, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE (jimtab @ Mar 26 2006, 04:38 PM)
With all of the spotters and flashing yellow lights why was the guy still going 176mph by telemetry when he hit the disabled car....don't those things have brakes? Too bad for the dead guy. I guess it really is better to be the hammer than the nail.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

Can't they cut the engine out remotely and have the car's slow or at least get the driver's attenion?

All that technoloy and this still happens. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

Seems as though something could have been done.

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post Mar 27 2006, 02:16 PM
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This is a tragedy. I really feel sorry for his family. But, I have to quote Steve McQueen in the movie LeMans, "It is a profesional blood sport, people die." Much as we hate it, it is going to happen. Not as often as in the past, but it is never going to go away.

Every shunt in racing results in better saftey. Dale Earnhart's death resulted in the Hans devise becoming mandatory in all forms of racing, right down to club racing. In the long run, his death will save the lives of many other racers at all levels of motorsport. The investigation into Dana's death should result in much better safety for the drivers and spectators in IRL. And hopefully that will also trickle down to the lower levels of racing too.



I don't watch racing for the shunts. But some do. I hope that someday those morbid people become bored with racing.


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post Mar 27 2006, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (boxstr @ Mar 26 2006, 10:16 PM)
Jim I just reread the report and it says Carpenter hit the wall, came down the track and was hit in the rear by Dana. I also watched the video, same outcome.
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Oops...my bad..I guess I got confused with all the car parts flying around (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)
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post Mar 27 2006, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (messix @ Mar 27 2006, 12:40 AM)
QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 27 2006, 01:23 AM)
QUOTE (messix @ Mar 26 2006, 11:34 PM)
its hard to tell but i think dana caught the engine package about head high. sad, and makes me sick. i feel bad for his family, but i'd rather go doing some thing that i love doing than rotting from some disease or taken out by a blue hair runnig a red light.

Roger that.

Did you see the sparks fly from the e-brake being pulled before the collision? That was neat. But it happens fast, so watch carefully. Blue car does it.

uuuummmmm i did'nt know irl open wheel race cars had e-brakes. can't imagine a need for an EMERGENCEY HAND BRAKE on a race car!!!!!

you crake me up alpha (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif)

Dude....what if they have to park on the high bank?????? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/av-943.gif)
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