 grey market cars worth less? |
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| tommyg |
 Mar 27 2006, 05:17 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Walnut Creek, CA Member No.: 3,824  |
I know that in the 911 community, grey market cars generally have less value than US spec autos. I don't see them too often in the 914 community, but i was looking over a nice black 914 from socal on OC craigslist, but it appears to be a grey market car. Does that make it less valuable?
sorry if posting in the wrong spot, but i thought those who are looking to buy/sell would have the best insights... |
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| Flat VW |
Mar 28 2006, 05:33 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
O.K. I'll bite... Andy what the heck are you talking about? John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wavey.gif) |
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| tommyg |
Mar 28 2006, 05:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Walnut Creek, CA Member No.: 3,824 |
Yeah, $6,500 is swooping range, but I'd rather see it go to someone from this site than get snatched up elsewhere. I still haven't sold the better half yet on the idea...
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| Mueller |
Mar 28 2006, 05:45 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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The Diablo region PCA has a breakfast every Sat. in San Ramon (or is that Danville??) a few 914 guys show up....once in a blue moon I'll make the trek....there are a few other 914 people in WC as well.
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| tommyg |
Mar 28 2006, 08:32 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 27-March 05 From: Walnut Creek, CA Member No.: 3,824 |
that's great to know. I've been scoping out 914's for a little while now, just yet to take the plunge. Used to be a 911 guy (and likely will again someday), but I love the price/value of the 914 for a weekend car, and i've always been a huge fan of cars with targa tops. Spending $40k on a used 911 is not an option now that I've got a family.
I keep my eyes open for a good deal to get in the 914 game. I'm sure I'll bite on something in the next year, but just waiting for the exact right car to come my way... Of course I have to talk myself out of looking for a -6, as that would be a nice collectible 14 to own... I still may make the trek down to SoCal to check this thing out. I bought my BMW down there, I think prices in general are at least a little cheaper than NorCal... |
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| Flat VW |
Mar 28 2006, 09:10 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 28 2006, 10:20 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
each new car sold in germany comes with a factory supplied "pamphlet" that has all sorts of information about the car, all the TÜV requirements etc. etc. etc. kind of like a pink slip, but MUCH MUCH more detailed. usually several pages long. without the "Fahrzeugbrief" you don't own the car ... the period correct Fahrzeugbrief for the 914 would be about DIN A5 in size, brown/greyish thicker stock cover with black print and white/brownish pages with black print inside. probably about 10 pages long ... see example below ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy cover: Attached image(s) 
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| SirAndy |
Mar 28 2006, 10:21 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 28 2006, 10:21 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
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| Flat VW |
Mar 31 2006, 03:22 PM
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Illegal Soapbox Derby Racecar Group: Members Posts: 1,692 Joined: 13-November 04 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 3,105 |
Interesting, thanks for your reply,
John (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) |
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| GWN7 |
Mar 31 2006, 04:40 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Also if it is a Euro it should have a metric speedo....KPH vs MPH............
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| Dave_Darling |
Mar 31 2006, 07:46 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,161 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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From reading what Anderson has to say about grey-market cars, the main reasons for them being worth less are: "Federalization" hassles (shoddy work in some cases, smog hassles in others); parts hassles (try sourcing a Euro 911SC fuel distributor some time!), and quality. Evidently cars from Europe tend to be used very hard, and so a lot of the ones imported in the 80s have very serious "issues"...
There was a loophole in the import laws in the 80s that let anyone do a one-time importation of a non-US-spec vehicle, as long as some specific stuff was done to it to "Federalize" it. A lot of cars came in, because there were a number of European versions of various cars that were higher-performance than the US versions, and they could be had cheaply in many cases. I would doubt very many 914s were imported, for reasons already stated. There were a ton of them already here, and most of the "Euro" parts were just a phone call away anyway. So there wasn't much incentive for them to be imported through the "grey market". --DD |
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| Pat Garvey |
Apr 1 2006, 11:09 AM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,900 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
The only Euro model I've seen was a '71 with a Sportomatic at a dealer in Cincinnati.......but that was in '76.
My recollection is that it didn't have side markers or Porsche lettering on the engine lid. Also had a Wolfsburg insignia on the steering wheel and VW-Porsche 914 insignia on rear, as well as euro lenses. Can you imagine a sporto 914/4? Only reason I took note of it was because I was driving a sporto 911E at the time. |
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| Pat Garvey |
Apr 1 2006, 11:11 AM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,900 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Yeh, but those are readily available. I have 2 of them on the shelf. |
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| Dave_Darling |
Apr 1 2006, 12:52 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 15,161 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California
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No, I can't. I was not aware of any Sporto fours (except for possibly a prototype running around Germany in the late 60s). I was under the impression that all of the Sportos (25 of them, plus one prototype!) were Sixes. --DD |
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