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| Brian Mifsud |
 Mar 31 2006, 11:33 PM
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Mechanical Engineer  Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None  |
aren't the 914 struts identical to the pre-SC struts minus the 5 lug hubs? Are wheel bearing identical? Can I just switch the hubs (front only).
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| Dr Evil |
Mar 31 2006, 11:35 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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No, sorry.
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| sixnotfour |
Apr 1 2006, 12:03 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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There is a guy on pelican parts trying to sell some 911 hubs with sleeves to use 914 wheel bearings (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....threadid=255623 |
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| Dr Evil |
Apr 1 2006, 12:11 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,995 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/WTF.gif) Wow, I have never seen that before. Is it realy more economical than just swapping the whole front end ? You would still need breaks and such. Still neat, though.
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| ClayPerrine |
Apr 1 2006, 08:43 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,454 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I actually looked into this about a year ago. Most bearing places can match ID, OD and bearing type (In this case a tapered roller) if you have them. But it seems that no one makes a bearing with the 911 OD and the 914 ID for the inner bearing. The outer was easy, they have that one in stock. So is the wheel seal.
If I could find a bearing for the inner, I would post the info. Then all you have to have is the 911 hubs to change to 5 lug. Maybe I will try again. |
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| Mueller |
Apr 1 2006, 10:51 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Mar 31 2006, 11:11 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Wow, I have never seen that before. Is it realy more economical than just swapping the whole front end ? You would still need breaks and such. Still neat, though. it's a fairly common mod for the VW bug crowd...I see nothing wrong with it if done correctly....if you are paying someone for the parts, then yes, I could see the cost being the same or more... one benifit is that you don't have to replace as many parts...many people feel more comfortable just replacing calipers and a wheel hub than having to remove a complete strut or a-arm assembly (and then have to get a wheel alignment) |
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| Brian Mifsud |
Apr 1 2006, 05:20 PM
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Mechanical Engineer Group: Members Posts: 981 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Penngrove, CA Member No.: 384 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Apr 1 2006, 08:51 AM) it's a fairly common mod for the VW bug crowd...I see nothing wrong with it if done correctly....if you are paying someone for the parts, then yes, I could see the cost being the same or more... one benifit is that you don't have to replace as many parts...many people feel more comfortable just replacing calipers and a wheel hub than having to remove a complete strut or a-arm assembly (and then have to get a wheel alignment) Hey Mike, Not just an issue of complexity.. but as I see it, there's really no point in swapping to a pre-SC 911 front end as the caliper mount is still 3.0" rather than 3.5" so there isn't really anything gained in terms of brake torque/ power.. the SC front ends I run across are priced fairly high compared to pre-SC front ends, so breaking it down to it's minimum parts is attractive. If it's just a matter of sleeving a bearing that's a good solution for me since I can make my own parts... Anyone have the measurements? I'd like to make the parts ahead of time before having to pull out the jack stands... |
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| Eric_Shea |
Apr 1 2006, 06:08 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Vooooo Jaaaaaaa Daaaaaaaaay (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) There's a huge point in swapping the early 911 front end if you want a 5-lug setup. For narrow bodied 914's I think the pre SC front is by far the best way to go. For most people it's the lure to 5-lug and larger brakes. James started an excellent thread on brakes. Read through that. Here's what I see in the early 911 "Boge" front ends (keep in mind the 3.5" spacing first showed up on a Koni strut in 1967). You get: 5-lug wheels (looks nice in my book) A WIDE variety of "914" inserts Beefier spindles Vented rotors Rotors are easily exchanged w/o messing with bearings. M-Calipers (which are an excellent match for 914 rears with a T-Fitting) 18.8mm torsion bars Read this thread in it's entirety. Saves me having to type again (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) |
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| Aaron Cox |
Apr 1 2006, 06:25 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) what she said ^^^
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