tranny drain plug stripped, what to do Options

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (Dr Evil @ Apr 3 2006, 07:46 PM)

I would drill the plug, thread an easy out into it and get it out. Use heat to get it loose. Heat maybe not as recommended if it still has oil in it and is in the car, though (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

I wouldn't do that on my car. What happens WHEN (not if) the ez-out breaks - the poor guy has a BFH in his transmission. That plug is in very tight or it wouldn't be stripped out.
Do the cut off allen wrench (my wrench still works for oil plugs) welded to the plug trick. Just clean it up good with some break cleaner and drive it to a welder or a small muffler place and have them MIG it on there. It only takes about 2 minutes total to do it. Shoudn't cost more that a 6 pack on Friday afternoon.
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[drewvw]

The tranny isn't making any horrible sounds, but it gets cranky in 1st reverse after its been driving awhile, so I was going to change the tranny oil as part of my three pronged attack:

1) replace tranny fluid
2) adjust clutch
3) replace shift bushings

I am beginning to accept that my dog ears are probably worn but I figure I should try some stuff before....cause I ain't spending the $$ on a new tranny for awhile. The ghia hasn't had 1st gear in 10 years!

drew

[Cap'n Krusty]

QUOTE (Tobra @ Apr 3 2006, 09:06 PM)

QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Apr 3 2006, 08:29 PM) Why change the oil at all?  It doesn't wear out, doesn't get loaded with combustion byproducts, and doesn't carry dangerous steel particles around. Unless you hear horrible noises, there's not much else in it either.  If you do hear horrible noises, the tranny's a gonner anyway.  I would hesitate to apply direct flame to a Mag alloy case, unless I wanted to start a REALLY cool bonfire. Why change the oil at all? Come now Cap'n, you disappoint me. The oil degrades with time and heat cycles also. My tranny leaks, but not enough that just topping it up is adequate to my mind, regardless of any factory recommendations. Why not cut a piece of allen wrench, J-B weld it to make your male drain plug. No heat, and that J-B epoxy is pretty tough. If you screw that up, you could still cut it off flush and drill it out, though a piece of allen wrench might be pretty hard to drill...

Degrades? Show me where it says that. The Cap'n

[Mueller]

the cap'n is correct.....many manufactures of transmissions and rear diffs do not recommend a regular draining and re-filling...engine oil breaks down due to the combustion process...in fact propane powered engines can go 10X or longer with no oil change since they burn so clean and do not contaminate the oil like gas or diesel engines....

[Tobra]

As I said in my original post, regardless of factory recommendations. They also advise 15, 000 mile engine oil change intervals for cars nowadays, which I would never do.

You are trying to tell me, that oil never degrades if you don't expose it to combustion byproducts. That is just not plausible to me, with what I know about Organic Chemistry.

[bondo]

It also fills with brass and molybdenum bits which won't stick to the magnet. And being vented, it certainly has the possibility of picking up dirt and moisture. I certainly don't think it needs to be changed often..

I'm sure most of the time you can get by without ever changing it... But I don't see there being no reason to change it for fresh occasionally.

It's worth it to me, for the purposes of ensuring maximum performance and lifespan, to change it every few years. Ya gotta get under there to check the level anyways, might as well get the shimmery glitter bits out, clean off the magnet, and make sure your drain plug doesn't fuse in place. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

[SLITS]

Synthetic leaks out faster........ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

[drewvw]

QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM)

Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

[bd1308]

QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 07:52 PM)

QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM) Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

uh the manual states that a idle warm up isnt necessary...just dont drive the piss out of it till its warm.

me personally, I just drive...I only occasionally drive very wildly.

b

[drewvw]

Noted. This is an ongoing argument I've had wth my dad for about 10 years now. I've always been an "idler", although I'm not delusional that its any better than any other method.

Maybe its psychological, but I've been pretty lucky with cars over the years so I'm sticking to it (knock on wood!)

[bd1308]

QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 08:18 PM)

Noted. This is an ongoing argument I've had wth my dad for about 10 years now. I've always been an "idler", although I'm not delusional that its any better than any other method. Maybe its psychological, but I've been pretty lucky with cars over the years so I'm sticking to it (knock on wood!)

ever watched cars at the traffic lights (long ones), and then the light turns green they pull away and out comes a BIG amount of water out of teh tailpipe.

imagine if that stayed in for ten to fifteen minutes EVERY time for the life of the engine.

Can we say rust?

b

[drewvw]

Yeah but I've driven old european cars with lots of miles on them my whole life, that only seems to happen to fresh new cars.....

[bd1308]

I recall someone saying it was in the manual...and come to think of it I have a 73 manual. A euro 74 one as well. And I think i read this.

I think overall, its just personal preference. Sure its better to have heat when you need it, and not having to wait till the HE's heat up.

I think we're just splitting hairs here....

b

[TimT]

QUOTE

Why change the oil at all?

QUOTE

the cap'n is correct.....many manufactures of transmissions and rear diffs do not recommend a regular draining and re-filling..

Hmm your both wrong...

Ive taken the liberty of attaching a scan of a Porsche Drivers Manual..This scan is from a manual from an early 70's 911...
and yes the recommended service interval is 6000 miles..

Crustholio.. how you have led your flock astray....

Im aware that the oils we use in our cars now are much improved from the 1970's....

so change your gear oil once a year ;-)

[drewvw]

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Apr 4 2006, 06:28 PM)

I think we're just splitting hairs here.... b

probably true. I need something to chat about while I watch the red sox get spanked by the rangers....

TimT, nice pull there with the chart

[Tobra]

Why on Earth would you sell an S2K? I want one, can you get one in supersonic blue, always liked that color.

So, where is the flaw in the idea to JB Weld it on? I could even put the tool I have in there, have another drain plug handy already. If it fails, would probably just pump it out, bro has one of them, before I would drill it out, I would be afraid of doing something bad.

[drewvw]

QUOTE (Tobra @ Apr 4 2006, 06:55 PM)

Why on Earth would you sell an S2K? I want one, can you get one in supersonic blue, always liked that color. So, where is the flaw in the idea to JB Weld it on? I could even put the tool I have in there, have another drain plug handy already. If it fails, would probably just pump it out, bro has one of them, before I would drill it out, I would be afraid of doing something bad.

I didn't WANT to sell the S2K, I had too....long story ending in compromise in the form of a 914. Just going with the flow, loved that car...

I am planning on giving the JB weld plan a careful try in the future.

[Tobra]

Too bad, I want one of those when the integra dies, if it ever dies I should say

[drewvw]

it was time...I had it for 3 years and started recieving signs (is that what running from the cops is?) that I should probably downgrade while I live in the city.

the 9000 rpm redline was too much fun....

[Porcharu]

QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 05:52 PM)

QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM) Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

No religious discussions on the 914non-club.com! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)